MemoryAlpha editor refuses to change Adira's Gender to "Non-Binary"

[Awesome Possum]

Good and proper.
And kudos to them for getting on the right side of this.

Look instead of trying your best to be all proper and correct and trying your best not to offend,wouldn’t it just be easier to try your best just to be a decent human being?

Trying not to offend people and being a decent human being tend to be the same thing.

Well it depends on who trying not to offend. Some people seek out offense by being upset that other humans have the audacity to exist, they should be ignored for the good of the species.

 

[Renegade54]

Look instead of trying your best to be all proper and correct and trying your best not to offend,wouldn’t it just be easier to try your best just to be a decent human being?

I agree, it is easier; I'm a big advocate of that.

Who's trying to be proper and correct and trying not to offend, though?

 

[Awesome Possum]

If you want to get crazy proper about canon we have no confirmation that Kirk or any character is cisgender. That’s never been clearly stated, it’s just assumed.

 

[Renegade54]

If you want to get crazy proper about canon we have no confirmation that Kirk or any character is cisgender. That’s never been clearly stated, it’s just assumed.

Absolutely true. The gender field didn't even exist on the MA sidebars until someone added it (and a bunch of other minor stuff like serial number, captain's woman (!), pet, etc.) a couple of years ago. That was one big reason for deciding to just remove the field from the template... in almost every case, it's assumption based purely on observation.

 

[Renegade54]

I'm a senior admin on MA (15+ years), btw, so feel free ask, berate, inform, scold, praise, excoriate, or whatever else you're so inclined to do... although like most people, I tend to respond better to reasonable discourse than flaming tirades.

 

[DonIago]

Good and proper.
And kudos to them for getting on the right side of this.

Look instead of trying your best to be all proper and correct and trying your best not to offend,wouldn’t it just be easier to try your best just to be a decent human being?

No reason for the two to be mutually exclusive...

 

[Discofan]

If you want to get crazy proper about canon we have no confirmation that Kirk or any character is cisgender. That’s never been clearly stated, it’s just assumed.

Personally, I don't like this constant labeling of people. Why can't people be a little of each for example, or change their minds about the whole thing at some point in their lives? If people identify with a certain sexual identity, fine but for those who don't they shouldn't have a sexual identity shoved down their throat.

For example, we see Kirk in one of the trek movies (I don't remember which one) with two alien twin girls with tails... Maybe that's not the only tails they have, for all we know they are ???? and Kirk is bi. Although the weirdest part is really sleeping with someone of another species... We're really not meant to do that.

 

[The Wormhole]

???

That word is a slur. You might want to remove it.

Moderator Note: Slur in the Quote removed.

 

[Discofan]

Another example: I know a guy who once told me that on average he went out with three guys for one girl, which means that he's bi but mostly homosexual. Another guy could be the exact opposite, IE mostly heterosexual and sometimes attracted to a guy... Yet both of them would be labeled bi... As if their sexuality was identical.

 

[Discofan]

That word is a slur. You might want to remove it.

I didn't know. To me, that was never the case. What other word should I use instead?

 

[Discofan]

That word is a slur. You might want to remove it.

If you read my post, it was obviously not meant to offend anyone.

 

[The Wormhole]

I didn't know. To me, that was never the case. What other word should I use instead?

Google is a thing. Educate yourself.

If you read my post, it was obviously not meant to offend anyone.

Immaterial. If one were to use the N word to describe black people, offense is still made whether it was intended or not.

 

[Discofan]

Google is a thing. Educate yourself.
...

Is there a reason for you not to give me the answer directly?

 

[The Wormhole]

If that's how you're going to be
What Are Appropriate Labels & Terms For Transgender People? (plannedparenthood.org)

 

[Discofan]

If that's how you're going to be
What Are Appropriate Labels & Terms For Transgender People? (plannedparenthood.org)

FYI: I am French and English is my fourth language.

Why is it a crime to even ask a question?

 

[The Wormhole]

Sigh. The world you're look for is transgender.

 

[Discofan]

Sigh. The world you're look for is transgender.

Thank you!

 

[Discofan]

Do you realize that when I started posting in English speaking forums I barely knew enough words to order a meal at a fast-food restaurant?

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

For example, we see Kirk in one of the trek movies (I don't remember which one) with two alien twin girls with tails... Maybe that's not the only tails they have, for all we know they are ???? and Kirk is bi. Although the weirdest part is really sleeping with someone of another species... We're really not meant to do that.

And who is the decider of that? Sorry buddy you are wrong, those women were humanoid shaped only with tails. I thought they were a similar species to M'Ress

What Tim are you saying we can't make fun of incels?
I find it worrying that women are also in the red pill movement, I thought that was a male only thing.

 

[Discofan]

And who is the decider of that? Sorry buddy you are wrong, those women were humanoid shaped only with tails. I thought they were a similar species to M'Ress

We don't know if they were women... Why couldn't they be hermaphrodites? It wouldn't be the first time?


Snails are all hermaphrodites, Their coupling can last for hours.

What Tim are you saying we can't make fun of incels?
...

Seems mean. It's like making fun of blind people IMO.