shadows and symbols and the 3rd episode “afterimage” during the promotion scene at the end where he comments about how cute she is and Ben says she’s 300 years older than he is.
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shadows and symbols and the 3rd episode “afterimage” during the promotion scene at the end where he comments about how cute she is and Ben says she’s 300 years older than he is.
How does Ezri showing up earlier lose it? She could be a secondary character so we know her a bit more than just one season.
Regardless, I don't know what was gained by their relationship but people seem to enjoy it so I guess it can stay...
I disagree it was just more Klingon crap, more of Worf being annoyed and morose and more of Jadzia being annoying.
I think it also gave a somewhat tragic vibe to Worf, because the only two real relationships he had end with his mates dead.
(I just can't count his relationship with Deanna as real. It never really made sense to me.)
(I just can't count his relationship with Deanna as real. It never really made sense to me.)
But that was only after Jadzia had died. It would still be possible to have Worf and Jadzia in a relationship ins season 4 and have her die in the season finale (maybe just after she has accepted his proposal) and Ezri joins in Season 5.
Funny enough this made me remember some fanfic I read as a teenager that had Jadzia proof a very good Stepmother to Alexander (who in that story still was a kid) through her carefree and adventurous ways. It was quite cute with Jadzia turning Alexander's chores into games and reflecting on her hosts' experiences in child rearing, stuff like that, maybe a bit cliche.
If they had done that on the show, I think I could have liked Jadzia better.
I was referring to Worf in general.
I liked both Dax hosts, but I feel Nicole was a stronger actress. To be fair, I think Ezri had some better arcs to play with, so that could be a factor. Maybe the best way to describe what I feel is Jadzia's individual episodes were better, but Ezri's arcs were the better of the two.
I liked both Dax hosts, but I feel Nicole was a stronger actress. To be fair, I think Ezri had some better arcs to play with, so that could be a factor. Maybe the best way to describe what I feel is Jadzia's individual episodes were better, but Ezri's arcs were the better of the two.
Ezri was a character who deserved better than a single season. Better to either have at least two more seasons of DS9 (easily doable given the number of interesting characters and potential story arcs still untapped, three-year contracts, and no movies being made), or terminate Dax at S6 and introduce the Ezri character in another series. Maybe change it to Emony and have her show up in "Enterprise".
Well, Emony was alive circa 2245 and a young gymnast at the time so her ENT Era host would have been somebody earlier.
No, no, no. Ezri already got way more than she deserved. She had numerous storylines and three entire episodes devoted to her in the final season, whereas O’Brien and Jake had not one (and the writers seemed to forget that Jake even existed much of the time). The closest O’Brien got to his annual “torture O’Brien” story was a half-baked subplot in a, you guessed it, Ezri episode. Jadzia hadn’t had her own episode since season four’s “Rejoined”, if you don’t count all the Worf stuff. In the final season, the writers were too busy playing with their new toy (Ezri) to give the rest of the cast the attention they deserved. They did make up for things in the final dozen episodes, but the first half of the season is horribly lopsided.
You reinforce my point, ananta. Ezri had so many storylines in so short a time because there was so little time to develop her. A nine-season DS9 would have ameliorated that issue. Failing that, they should have either ended the character or let Terry Farrell stay in a less prominent role.
Regarding Jake, I get the sense that Jake was a hard character to find storylines for, especially as the end drew near. And O'Brien was a similar issue; look at "Honor Among Thieves"; what's a Starfleet engineer doing as an undercover agent in an interstellar mafia?
At least O'Brien did have time to evolve over his 12 years on Star Trek, from a faceless bachelor transporter tech aboard the Enterprise to a family man with a wife, two kids, a cat, and a best mate.
Regarding Jake, I get the sense that Jake was a hard character to find storylines for, especially as the end drew near. And O'Brien was a similar issue; look at "Honor Among Thieves"; what's a Starfleet engineer doing as an undercover agent in an interstellar mafia?
At least O'Brien did have time to evolve over his 12 years on Star Trek, from a faceless bachelor transporter tech aboard the Enterprise to a family man with a wife, two kids, a cat, and a best mate.
Funny, I thought they would have made a cute couple as well.
Ezri/Bashir did little for me, but I guess the doc deserved something after being dumped for a (shudder) Ferengi.
Discovery hasn't yet made an episode I don't like. At worst I've thought "they could've done X better", "Y wasn't a big enough problem to affect my enjoyment", or "I'm going to wait to see how Z plays out." With a continuing storyline, not starting from scratch every week, there's always something there I'm interested in. Because I've been interested in all of DSC's long-term stories.
In older Trek series, where oftentimes the story would start from scratch, I'm at the mercy of potentially coming across an episode where I don't like any of it, tanking some episodes altogether for me.
As a result, with all of the old series, even the ones I preferred, they all had at least a few episodes where I'd give a 5/10 or less, by the time they got to 40 episodes. I haven't given any episodes of Discovery a 5 or below. And there's only one episode I gave below a 7. Two if you count Short Treks. They were "The Escape Artist" (6) and "Unification III" (6.5).
Same goes for Picard, where I haven't yet given anything below a 7 at all. If Picard can keep up the same quality level it had in its first season across its run, I might actually like it more than Discovery in the long run. But it's too early to tell at this point.
How's that for controversial?
In older Trek series, where oftentimes the story would start from scratch, I'm at the mercy of potentially coming across an episode where I don't like any of it, tanking some episodes altogether for me.
As a result, with all of the old series, even the ones I preferred, they all had at least a few episodes where I'd give a 5/10 or less, by the time they got to 40 episodes. I haven't given any episodes of Discovery a 5 or below. And there's only one episode I gave below a 7. Two if you count Short Treks. They were "The Escape Artist" (6) and "Unification III" (6.5).
Same goes for Picard, where I haven't yet given anything below a 7 at all. If Picard can keep up the same quality level it had in its first season across its run, I might actually like it more than Discovery in the long run. But it's too early to tell at this point.
How's that for controversial?
yeah, if you couldn’t work out some sort of “special guest” deal with Farrell (maybe they force Dax to transfer after “a change of heart”), I would have just ended the Dax character and promoted either Nog or Cassidy to series regular.
There is.
According to Memory Alpha [https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dedication_plaque_comparison#USS_Enterprise_.28NCC-1701-A.29]:
In STVI, the dedication plaque for the Ent-A is over the viewscreen [http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tuchd/tuchd0455.jpg].
In STV, the plaque is by the starboard bridge elevator [http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tffhd/ch8/tffhd0918.jpg].
In STV, the plaque is by the starboard bridge elevator [http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tffhd/ch8/tffhd0918.jpg].
Fascinating! I thought that was one of the generic "caution" signs above the screen in VI!
Looks like the V one is probably the one seen in MSGttE.
I’ve seen Star Trek V 100 times easy. I’ve never noticed that before. Pretty awesome.
That would've been interesting...maybe with Garak as an uncle figure to her to keep a close relationship of some type between them and the friction that caused with Dukat.
We have seen Jake have success with older women...
If they'd kept Cyia Batten or Tracy Middendorf I could see Ziyal/Jake working, but probably not once they cast Melanie Smith. Chase Masterson was originally up for Mardah but they felt there was too much of an age gap between her and Cirroc and Chase is one year younger than Melanie. Even the actress they eventually cast as Mardah, Jill Sayre, is only two years older than Cirroc. Now having said all that I think Jake and Ziyal could have been cute.
Were you being held in a prison camp?
I'm pretty sure that's a violation of the Geneva Convention...
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