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Generations would have been a much better movie if everything Kirk had been removed and you re-work the Nexus rules so the “why didn’t Picard just arrest Soren in Ten Foreward” plot hole is closed.

You could even keep the Enterprise B stuff, just don’t make it a publicity mission.
My issue is why doesn't Picard save his family. He should jump there and undo all of it.
 
Okay, I know I am in the minority with this opinion.

Archer's 'Gazelle Speech'... I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as people say. I thought that and the scene was fine.

Same with Yar's anti-drug talk with Wesley in "Symbiosis".
 
Okay, I know I am in the minority with this opinion.

Archer's 'Gazelle Speech'... I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as people say. I thought that and the scene was fine.

You may be right, but at this point it’s way too much fun to make fun of and pretend it’s horrible.
 
...and Data being almost unbearably annoying...

MR. TRICORDER!!!

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That still makes me laugh. :lol:

Generations would have been a much better movie if everything Kirk had been removed and you re-work the Nexus rules so the “why didn’t Picard just arrest Soren in Ten Foreward” plot hole is closed.

Yes the Nexus was poorly conceived and executed. There should have been some "rule" where if you want to leave you can only return to the point you entered. Otherwise Picard looks pretty fucking stupid for not going further back and preventing all of it. The whole "from his point of view he just got here too" doesn't make any sense. And it should have been Beverly and Gillian in the Nexus, not two randoms.

Still, this film is gorgeous. The opening scene of the champagne bottle was beautiful. The lighting in the scene where Picard tells Troi what happened...in many ways it is a visually wonderful film. One more rewrite could have made it better.
 
GEN is a good movie and you guys are worse than Dr. Soran for thinking otherwise.

Forums are the Nerdrage in which we burn. ;)
 
2020 sucked. There were worse years for my personal life but in general, for the world at large, 2020 sucked.

One of the main highlights of 2020 has been all the new Star Trek. This shouldn't be a Controversial Opinion on a Star Trek board, but apparently it is. So there we are.
 
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It had some good moments but Generations was the most flat out depressing Trek film ever made. There was just a blanket of doom hanging over the whole damn film. I left the cinema feeling so deflated and depressed.

That’s what made it a real movie to me.
Now, I would have loved the concept of the Ent-B having some run in with Picard...the stock two-heroes-fight-then-team-up trope. There are only so many ways to do those.

Sadly, in the end—pain is the only thing that is real.
 
2020 sucked. There were worse years for my personal life but in general, for the world at large, 2020 sucked.

One of the main highlights of 2020 has been all the new Star Trek. This shouldn't be a Controversial Opinion on a Star Trek board, but apparently it is. So there we are.

All three of the main shows have been amazing. Picard and Lower Decks had moments in them that I had been waiting literally 18 years to see, and never thought I'd EVER see. For that reason alone, the total atonement for the sins of Nemesis, I will always and forever remember the Kurtzman era as being superior to the Berman era, and look back on these years in fandom with immense fondness.
 
Yes the Nexus was poorly conceived and executed. There should have been some "rule" where if you want to leave you can only return to the point you entered. Otherwise Picard looks pretty fucking stupid for not going further back and preventing all of it. The whole "from his point of view he just got here too" doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, when you rewatch GEN now, it's obvious that the Nexus just does whatever the hell they want it to in any given scene. Sometimes you're revisiting moments of your life, like Kirk. Sometimes you're imagining a life you never had, like Picard. Sometimes you can be pulled out of it, like Soran. Sometimes you stay in it for 78 years but you're not aware of it, like Kirk. Sometimes you leave an echo of yourself behind for some reason, like Guinan. And sometimes you can just leave whenever you feel like it, like Picard and Kirk. It's literally just a "Whatever the fuck we want to have happen now, can" pass for the screenwriters.
 
Generations would have been a much better movie if everything Kirk had been removed and you re-work the Nexus rules so the “why didn’t Picard just arrest Soren in Ten Foreward” plot hole is closed.

I always assumed you could only exit the nexus in areas it's been.

It had some good moments but Generations was the most flat out depressing Trek film ever made.

You've...seen Nemesis, yes?

GEN is a good movie and you guys are worse than Dr. Soran for thinking otherwise.

Forums are the Nerdrage in which we burn. ;)

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I don't think Kirk would have ended up with Carol Marcus for many reasons, but the biggest reasons are these.

1. A lot of years passed from when they were together. They would be different people, and might not be at all compatible.

2. She clearly did not want him in her life while raising David.

3. David died under Kirk's watch. I don't think Carol would ever let that go, and it's a missed opportunity we never got to see that fallout.


However, I do agree that Beverly should have been with Picard in that vision. Not only did it seem right, but it would have given Gates McFadden some more scenes instead of the, what, 7 minutes she appeared in with like 10 lines of dialogue. Criminally underused throughout the movies.
 
It had some good moments but Generations was the most flat out depressing Trek film ever made. There was just a blanket of doom hanging over the whole damn film. I left the cinema feeling so deflated and depressed. From the needless, horrific deaths of Picard’s only family to the shockingly weak send-off for Kirk, who got to die twice essentially, to the dark sets and Data being almost unbearably annoying... I did like the music though.
I hadn't heard described like this but I think this is closer to what I felt with it than I realized.
 
Now the fact that they went 85 years without a Starship Enterprise (2161-2245) looks weird, given everything else we've seen. And given how Starfleet likes to recycle names.

The NX-01 was in the fleet museum. The name was technically available, but it would have felt weird to use it. That is until Starfleet launched a class of vessels all named after famous starships of the past (the Starship class).
 
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