That's how a lot of shows are these days. From The Mandalorian to Fargo to WestWorld to The Handmaid's Tale to For All Mankind, television looks and acts very differently than it use to.
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I think the actors said they filmed these shows as if they were just long movies and the production wasn't like TV at all.
It's like what David Lynch did with "Twin Peaks the Return". He shot it like an 18 hour movie and then cut it into 18 episodes of a season.
The only thing I'm a little disappointed by is us still not being certain on what Zemo's role here is.
Trailer only shows us the same shot of Bucky holding a gun to him and that's it. I was hoping he'd be more a Hannibal Lector type, manipulating things from behind the scenes or still locked up till he feels the need to escape.
It's like what David Lynch did with "Twin Peaks the Return". He shot it like an 18 hour movie and then cut it into 18 episodes of a season.
The only thing I'm a little disappointed by is us still not being certain on what Zemo's role here is.
Trailer only shows us the same shot of Bucky holding a gun to him and that's it. I was hoping he'd be more a Hannibal Lector type, manipulating things from behind the scenes or still locked up till he feels the need to escape.
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I haven't finished The Mandalorian season 1. I haven't seen the rest.
I'm basically on "Agent's of Shield" level of production expectation haha.
That's my birthday!
About a week before mine... I'll take it.
Then you're missing out! They're all excellent shows. If you can, watch them.
Well, that use to be the gold standard for genre shows back in the day. Not anymore!
Yeah, I was forgetting I wasn't watching a trailer for a movie there.
So, has anyone heard of how another Villain reinvention is occurring in this show?
Aside from Zemo and John Walker, the main villains will be an organization called the "Flag Smashers".
This is the TV reinvention of this character from the comics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag-Smasher
And his organization, ULTIMATUM.
Possible origin for them is that the Flag Smasher and the Ultimatum people here are survivors of the Snap who realized they liked living in a post-apocalypse world where the Superpowers didn't really exist anymore and everyone had to get along and don't appreciate that once Humanity was revived that it all went back to the way it used to be. They want to force an end to Superpowers fighting for dominance of Earth by any means possible
Aside from Zemo and John Walker, the main villains will be an organization called the "Flag Smashers".
This is the TV reinvention of this character from the comics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag-Smasher
And his organization, ULTIMATUM.
Possible origin for them is that the Flag Smasher and the Ultimatum people here are survivors of the Snap who realized they liked living in a post-apocalypse world where the Superpowers didn't really exist anymore and everyone had to get along and don't appreciate that once Humanity was revived that it all went back to the way it used to be. They want to force an end to Superpowers fighting for dominance of Earth by any means possible
Superpowers still existed after the Snap, several of the surviving Avengers had powers and were still active, like Capt. Marvel, Capt. America, and Hulk. It just took out 50% of the superheroes, just like it did everybody else.
According IGN's trailer breakdown, the show's Flag Smasher is a woman played by Erin Kellyman, the actress who played Enfys Nest in Solo.
According IGN's trailer breakdown, the show's Flag Smasher is a woman played by Erin Kellyman, the actress who played Enfys Nest in Solo.
I was fine with the Flag Smashers until I realized that we might miss out on the Underground Liberated Totally Integrated Mobile Army To United Mankind.
Mark Gruenwald had a way with an acronym, didn't he?
It still is for network tv shows, that still adhere to the 20+/- episode a season format, especially those with higher production costs due to bigger sets and special effects.
With smaller, 8-13 episode streaming shows the budget remains the same or is even bigger so they are able to afford movie level sets, costumes and special effects and it shows. I thought about that in one season 2 Mandalorian episode where the visuals were just spectacular and could have easily be in a big movie theater.
It seems Disney is going all in with their slate of Marvel shows next year and i am seriously considering renewing my subscription (just Mandalorian and a ton of MCU movies and Disney Animation, which i've seen hundreds of times, was not enough to justify the costs).
The trailer looked gread but i kind of missed Falcon handling the shield as we have seen in a teaser, i guess the producers didn't want to spoil too much as these shows are now truly linked to the MCU as opposed to Agents of Shield that only had a connection in its first season and was ignored completely by the movies. It seems Disney is planning to run a more cohesive package now and i'm curious if and how this will affect the movies when people are not watching the Disney+ shows.
Not likely - at the end of Captain America: Winter Soldier we see his character being arrested by the FBI, so its safe to assume he was exposed as Hydra.
He could have been arrested though and found innocent. Now he is a news pundit for some Fox News style of network or even Fox News since we know it exists in the MCU. I wonder of MCU Bill O'Reilly ended up getting exposed just like real world Bill O'Reilly.
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Oh, OK that makes more sense.
I didn't realize at first that Erin Kellyman was Enyfs Nest, but I am happy it is. I really liked her in Solo and I'm glad to see she's gotten herself another high profile gig.
If you had put a gun to my head, I would have told you that the character she played in Solo had no name
She didn't do enough in that movie for me to have an opinion on her acting (I'm pretty sure most of the character's small screen time was just a stunt double in a suit anyway), but she seems an odd choice to play Flagsmasher, at least a version that resembles the comic. But its not like she's the main villain anyway, so whether she's good or bad probably wont effect the quality of the show anyway.
I've watched that movie twice, but its the only new Star Wars movie released in my lifetime (aka since 1990) that I didn't see in theaters (not counting the Clone wars movie, which I also didn't see in theaters but is more of a TV pilot turned into a movie for some reason), and that comes down to it being very bad. I couldn't tell you the name of any character outside of Han, Lando, Chewie and Darth Maul, and I don't even know what Savareen is (is that the planet that The Vision's base was on, or the one where they robbed the train? Are they the same planet?). I remember the boring mask character showing up twice, for probably less then 4-5 minutes screen time, and barely showing their face at the end, after having added nothing to the story (one of many things that could, and should, have been cut from the movie).
So its possible that she showed her face more then I remember, but considering the fact that I think Solo is worse then AotC, I'm not going to be checking on that anytime soon, so I guess I'll take your word for it. She still played a minor, pointless character in the worst SW movie, but I have no opinion on her as an actor, she could be fine, but she certainly doesn't seem like she'd fit the role she's been cast in for this show. But, I doubt she's the main villain, in fact we pretty much know she isn't, so it doesn't really matter. It just seems like odd casting.
Not much revealed in the new trailer (I was aware of most of what those scenes meant), but this is the only Marvel TV production that has my interest. Even from the trailers, its world has such a completely different feeling than the other series' trailers or known plot.