More my point is that characters are shown to violate orders and often are right, or circumstances break their direction. Burnham is just following that mold, at least to me.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x06 - "Scavengers"
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It's not even mentioned by and may not be obvious to the characters though. Neither Tilly, Saru, or Vance even mention Book at all when discussing Burnham's disobedience.
I gave it a 7. Good episode...not great. Pretty generic “A-story” that didn’t do much for me. The character stuff was great though, and the production values are tremendous as always. It was fun, but nothing to get overly excited about.
Not a fan of any of the upgrades. I don’t like the new badges. The changes to the sets are blah. Engineering in particular just looks odd now. I definitely don’t like the changes to the exterior of the DIscovery.
After an amazing start, the last two episodes have felt too generic to hold top spots for me.
Still loving it overall, though. Not every episode is going to be a winner.
Not a fan of any of the upgrades. I don’t like the new badges. The changes to the sets are blah. Engineering in particular just looks odd now. I definitely don’t like the changes to the exterior of the DIscovery.
After an amazing start, the last two episodes have felt too generic to hold top spots for me.
Still loving it overall, though. Not every episode is going to be a winner.
I don't know if you watch the Mandalorian, but I'd be very surprised if you found Discovery more generic than that. There's only so many shots of a Mandalorian walking through a western themed desert even the most hardcore Star Wars fan can handle.
He defied and mocked Federation officials. Insubordination for sure. But all's well that ends well.
I think you are way over complicating things here, but quite correct on your later post: as long as the ships’ clocks are precise (and I really hope they’ll be, otherwise there is no solution) you can calculate the speed of origin of the burn effect, but since you don’t know the point of origin you only get a line at this point, so I was wrong in saying they have two locations already.
By the way, you are right saying that GPS can work with only three satellites, but the reason is not that we know the speed of light (well, we do, but it’s not the point), but that we know the approximate distance from the center of earth the receiver will be! Basically, earth acts as a fourth satellite, excluding the second location (which will be far into space) and confirming the other.
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Interestingly enough: WiFi could *in theory* be more efficient of hardwired cable: any cable’s top speed is going to be no more of the limitations of the material it’s made of, radio goes at the speed of light. In fact this was a thread in one of Jon Scalzi’s novels: WiFi had become so cheap and advanced that even internal connections in devices no longer relied on anything physical, with every component talking to the others via radio...which is of course a huge problem when they must hide from a race who’s seeking them out by listening to their equipment’s radio emission, meaning they can’t use any modern technology anymore.All I can say is...good luck, Eaglemoss!
Seriously though, detaching the nacelles and claiming that is more efficient is like saying WiFi is more efficient than a hardwired ethernet connection. The other upgrades were cool but that was just dumb.
In discovery’s case I had a WTF moment initially but it’s easy to rationalize if now transporters technology is so advanced that they just beam whatever matter or energy the nacelles need straight from the source, they could also be more maneuverable at warp by changing the position of each nacelle, I guess (the nacelles being held with perpetually active tractor beams).
I actually like how Michael is obsessed with the Burn and no one else really cares. It's her obsession say with, "How did the Spanish American War start!"
Or, to be more apt, "Who started the nuclear war in Fallout? America or China!"
The Admiral is like, "It was a 150 years ago! Who cares!"
Or, to be more apt, "Who started the nuclear war in Fallout? America or China!"
The Admiral is like, "It was a 150 years ago! Who cares!"
Except the Federation doesn't know and it clearly is restricting their interactions with others, even if the Burn isn't ongoing, the fallout is.
He sees a small field of vision: he is looking to keep the small fragments of the Federation safe from the Emerald Chain (who are beginning to remind me of the Lucian Alliance from SG1). He doesn't have the resources to send Discovery, which is the only ship that can instantaneously jump to problems, on a mission to rebuild the Federation.
I agree that I would've rather seen Discovery on its own, trying to piece together remnants of the Federation instead of just being another ship in the fleet. I think the writing staff has sort've pigeon holed themselves into limited the adventures they can send Discovery on.
Yeah, obviously no one wants to spend tens of thousands of dollars on creating new uniforms for the cast and extras. The problem is that full-time nitpickers like Trekyards throw a fit about that, while not caring that TNG did it for years and then did it even more obviously in Generations when the DS9 uniforms showed up in a few scenes. We never even got the excuse used for the TNG/DS9 split about degree of formality, it was people on the same ship wearing different uniforms for no reason other than not being main characters.
I think they added a section to the pylons. There’s now a hallow portion between the nacelle and secondary hull.
The Federation's HQ being hidden says more than any exposition ever could.
I think it's more a slow burn. The Admiral is still trying to figure out how much he can trust these guys and what he can do with them. The fact they've analyzed the spore drive means that they probably can replicate it now safely.
Discovery is not in charge and Burnham is not Gene Hunt, a fact that is very frustrating to her.
Except there are much more efficient ways Discovery could be used to keep the Federation safe from the Emerald Chain.
Wanna protect a place? Have those 30+ member worlds produce a couple hundred orbital defense platforms and get Discovery to spore jump them in over the course of a day or two.
Communications are spotty? Have those 30+ member worlds produce some signal repeaters and get Discovery to spore jump them into place.
This sort of thing goes on and on and on, but suffice it to say, as long as they have access to the production hubs that are those 30+ member worlds, just acting as a rapid reaction ship is a completely and utter waste of potential.
They can probably replicate the spore drive technology; but does the species still exist in the 32nd century that Stammets used to genetically enhanced himself so he could be the navigator of the spore drive (or is 32nd century computing power such that a computer can now properly navigate for the spore drive?)
So yeah unless they can replicate what Stammets did to himself to be able to use the spore drive, Discovery is still the only ship that can use it.
Sorry but how is burnham turning into troi? Burnham has had two guys fall on love with her and both developed over time, especially in the case of book. But you're carrying on like the andorian who got shot in 'scavengers' was fawning over her.
It does. Aboard Discovery. Couldn't they just grow some more from the ones on Discovery?
They shouldn't need it.
Remember, the problem was they didn't have the computer power necessary to safely make a jump more then a relatively small spatial distance. But that was in the 23rd century. This is the 32nd century where they have computers with literally faster then light processors.
Also, they could just isolate the DNA marker from Stammets himself and then implant it in other people... Or just clone Stammets...
I wonder what cloning laws are like in the Federation in the 32nd century. Cloning and genetic manipulation were big no-nos in the TNG Era and based on the backstory established in DS9 stretched back to the aftermath of Earth's Eugenics Wars.
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