I take it this ties into the stuff about Burnham interacting with a CG Nimoy Spock then.
Just for the added nerd rage.
Just for the added nerd rage.
Spoilers Robert Meyer Burnett: "Terra Firma" will ruin Trek canon
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Does it?
It suggests timey-wimey shenanigans to me- rewriting history, rebooting the universe, etc.
I was thinking of the same thing. If GoF is used to communicate with Kelvin timeline then some heads would definitely explode. But I think it would be great.
If Adam and Nimoy's family are ok with it, I don't see any problem with CGI Nimoy to be honest. CGI Nimoy's already all across youtube plastered over Quinto in Kelvinverse scenes by deepfake amateurs. Someone even did scenes of "If Memory Serves" with CGI Nimoy.
You are correct that Trek has dealt with multiple universes and timelines before. That's not the issue. Presumably, the controversy is in what the episode does with these concepts. For example, maybe it changes previously established canon in some big way?
The recent Dr. Who season finale caused a stir because it completely retconned the origin story of the Doctor. The mention of Dr. Who suggests that maybe RMB feels that Terra Firma does something similar to Trek. For example, if Michael uses the Guardian of Forever, goes back in time, and becomes the founder of the Federation, I could see that pissing off certain people like RMB.
RMB did not write the script. He was going to be the director. Alec Peters and Christian Gossett are credited as the writers.
It does. I think 10 remarks to Rose about it being easier when the Time Lords were still around.
Probably that Starfleet took a bunch of phaser rifles to it.
But if it didn't, I can see them sending Mirror Georgiou back that way if the Section 31 show is still a thing and will be in the 23rd century. If this subject line is onto anything, maybe Mirror Georgiou nullifies the entire Trek timeline we knew by telling everything to Starfleet once she gets back to the 23rd century, undoing TOS, TNG etc. That's the most drastic possibility I could think of as far as a Discovery episode destroying Trek canon. Then Strange New Worlds can do whatever they want.
Indeed.
That one can't use it for time travel.
Since its likely under Starfleet's administration, it will probably imply that use of GoF might be doable only for data gathering (and so long as you don't actually go through it).
But, this is all speculation.
We don't know if GoF will actually be in this season to begin with.
It would make very little sense for them to “erase” TOS when they went to such great pains to tie The Cage into the plot of last season. Now with Strange New Worlds about to head into production, any chance of them wiping out entire sections of the past seems unlikely.
I suspect RMB is just playing to his audience and blowing something minor way out of proportion.
I suspect RMB is just playing to his audience and blowing something minor way out of proportion.
Kinda true. I was wrong, but it was Bill Hunt who co-wrote the feature script, Gossett had already left the project.
RMB called it "the best Star Trek script ever written" which kinda says it all about what he likes in Trek. Pewpew! Pew pew pew! Ka-boom!
Maybe they give us an origin for the GoF? It’s somehow the result of Burnham or her mom, and it stands outside of time so that it exists retroactively/prior to its creation? That sort of timey-wimey would be Who-ish, and I can see fans complaining that it destroys the Guardian’s mystery and mystique.
Maybe Burnham has to create it/use it to send Georgiou back in time because of whatever is causing her attacks. That would explain why Georgiou leaves the “daughter” she secretly loves. And they could milk it for some Discovery-style big tears, with Georgiou finally confessing her feelings at the last moment before they’re parted forever.
I have no idea who this dude RMB is. I don’t know how people keep up.
Maybe Burnham has to create it/use it to send Georgiou back in time because of whatever is causing her attacks. That would explain why Georgiou leaves the “daughter” she secretly loves. And they could milk it for some Discovery-style big tears, with Georgiou finally confessing her feelings at the last moment before they’re parted forever.
I have no idea who this dude RMB is. I don’t know how people keep up.
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Actually, I think he likes TMP a lot. If you listen to his Trek commentary, I think he tends to prefer high brow scifi and Trek that respects canon which is his main beef with modern Trek.
"Highbrow" and calling Axanar "the best Star Trek script ever written" are incompatible terms. Axanar, which introduces the USS Enterprise NCC-1701 as a battleship designed to win the war with the Klingons is respecting canon... where's the Picard facepalm gif?
Yeah I think he was also praising the unused Romulan War movie script some time ago, which never struck me as a high-brow story.
A guy who wanted to hijack the franchise is over Trek? I'm pretty sure that Trek was already over him.
Read the tweets, someone wrote, "Oh no. The guardian?", to which RMB responded, "MADE FLESH!!!"
https://twitter.com/BurnettRM/status/1330066304393502722
I am not sure how that ruins Star Trek, as
KIRK: Are you machine or being?
GUARDIAN: I am both and neither. I am my own beginning, my own ending.
We have weeks to wait to see if this is that bad. I am also curious as to how RMB learned about the episode's plot.
https://twitter.com/BurnettRM/status/1330066304393502722
I am not sure how that ruins Star Trek, as
KIRK: Are you machine or being?
GUARDIAN: I am both and neither. I am my own beginning, my own ending.
We have weeks to wait to see if this is that bad. I am also curious as to how RMB learned about the episode's plot.
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