In that case, iBadge would make sense.
Spoilers Ah, the NEW uniforms...!
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Badgie. 
I actually thought of "Multi" as an homage to the Multiciever, which was to be the new tricorder in Phase II before TMP came along and they stuck with the tricorder.
It's called TriCom badge
Update:
The new TriCom badges use hand gestures:
Up - Holopadd
Squeeze and pull out - Tricorder
Tap - Transporter controls
Double tap - Transport to home
So the thing monitors your hand movements... guess a lot of single officers get all kinds of holo stuff in their face all the time
And here's the official design:
They also had one that looked like one of the fan designs someone posted here:
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Cross posting my response from the other thread specifically about the badges:
Cool! Thanks for all that!
The fact that it’s SO difficult to work out without getting clear, in focus close-ups or the images of the official designs is hardly a positive comment on the overall design ...!
The official images pretty much show just how indistinguishable the badges really are; glance at that image and they all look pretty much the same!!
Nevertheless, I *do* like the general idea, it just needed better balance between the polished and matt components to improve contrast and make the relevant areas more readily visible.
The other thing that is immediately obvious is that this is the first “official” rank scheme from any era of Trek, that I have seen, which includes not just the rank of Fleet Captain but an actual separate distinctive insignia for that grade as a separate rank.
I have to say that, even with the combination of black and gold pips, the Fleet Captain badge is rather odd — given the use of the gold lower section, it looks like it should be significantly senior to Commodore, the apparent next grade up!
The obvious solutions would have been to use either (a) the same as all the other non-flag officers with the polished silver lower section but then have five pips instead of the four pips for Captain, or (b) use the flag officer version with the gold lower section but use a single black pip to clearly indicate the grade is junior to Commodore. The two gold / two black that they show in the official images makes absolutely NO sense to me.
Oh well...
It confirms that David Cronenberg’s character in 3x05 is wearing a Commodore’s badge.
I also think that last badge is Senna Tal’s badge.
Cool! Thanks for all that!
The fact that it’s SO difficult to work out without getting clear, in focus close-ups or the images of the official designs is hardly a positive comment on the overall design ...!
The official images pretty much show just how indistinguishable the badges really are; glance at that image and they all look pretty much the same!!
Nevertheless, I *do* like the general idea, it just needed better balance between the polished and matt components to improve contrast and make the relevant areas more readily visible.
The other thing that is immediately obvious is that this is the first “official” rank scheme from any era of Trek, that I have seen, which includes not just the rank of Fleet Captain but an actual separate distinctive insignia for that grade as a separate rank.
I have to say that, even with the combination of black and gold pips, the Fleet Captain badge is rather odd — given the use of the gold lower section, it looks like it should be significantly senior to Commodore, the apparent next grade up!
The obvious solutions would have been to use either (a) the same as all the other non-flag officers with the polished silver lower section but then have five pips instead of the four pips for Captain, or (b) use the flag officer version with the gold lower section but use a single black pip to clearly indicate the grade is junior to Commodore. The two gold / two black that they show in the official images makes absolutely NO sense to me.
Oh well...
It confirms that David Cronenberg’s character in 3x05 is wearing a Commodore’s badge.
I also think that last badge is Senna Tal’s badge.
ugh, pretty much: even here they’re mostly undistinguishable blobs until you zoom in close.
I agree. But the collar insignia don't make much sense either. Vance has 5 stripes and 5 dots on his shoulders but only 2 stripes and 5 dots on his collar. Senna Tal's uniform had 6 triangles on the shoulders and 2 triangles on the collar. Captains have two stripes and 4 dots, while Lieutenants only have 2 stripes.
BTW: What is the source of this official rank badges?
Pike had 5 dots on his uniform in "Through the Valley of Shadows".
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Yes, and interestingly enough, that was five discs on epaulettes not dissimilar to those on the uniforms for Tal and Vance.
I was never entirely sure whether that uniform could be taken as an *exact* rendition of what Pike’s formal uniform would actually look like as Fleet Captain or if it was just meant to be a general impression of what his future would be. I’m kinda guessing the latter because that gives them far more latitude to vary things if they ever get closer to those actual events in another show.
I was never entirely sure whether that uniform could be taken as an *exact* rendition of what Pike’s formal uniform would actually look like as Fleet Captain or if it was just meant to be a general impression of what his future would be. I’m kinda guessing the latter because that gives them far more latitude to vary things if they ever get closer to those actual events in another show.
It's been discussed.
I haven’t seen it but it seems like the source was the Ready Room.
As best I can work out, everyone has the collar patch with the two “check marks” offset to the left hand side. For everyone below Captain, they all appear to be the same and have a kind of satin/matt grey background and bright silver finish to the raised edges and the check marks. None of them appear to have any other rank insignia. I have no idea if this is meant to have any significant meaning or if it’s just a design feature of all the uniforms.
The only exception might be a background character in the briefing room scene that was in the preview: she’s wearing a grey jacket with a red stripe but is not a captain. She appears to have a gold-on-black collar patch, but I could be wrong.
The captains’ collar patch seem to have a black background and gold for the raised edges and the check marks. They also show their four pips as small gold rhomboids above the far left end of the check marks. The black front-to-back shoulder straps simply have smaller versions of the markings from the collar insignia, albeit as a mirrored pair. They do kinda remind me of the shoulder straps from TMP, especially the captain’s version with two thick lines and a thin dashed line above!
I don’t understand the need to introduce a different set of symbols by using the rhomboids — if the additional rank marks had to be there at all, I should have thought that using four small ellipses to echo the badge and the rank marks on the badge would have been more consistent and would have made more sense.
Aesthetically, it seems odd to establish the very organic looking elliptical insignia on the elliptical badges, only to use very hard-edged rank shapes elsewhere (albeit much smaller).
Vance’s admiral version effectively has paired collar insignia, like we saw all the way through the extended TNG era (from season two onwards...) and as far as the early Picard is a uniforms. I think his collar badges only have two smaller check marks because they’re meant to look like smaller, paired versions of the collar patches worn by all the other lower ranks. Again, for consistency, I would have used five small ellipses instead of rhomboids but it’s not that big a deal.
The epaulettes, on the other hand, are clearly meant to be fully distinctive for his rank and each have five check marks below five small rhomboid pips. I’m guessing what we would think of as the four star full admiral grade would have the same collar badges as Vance but with only four pips — and the epaulettes would have four pips over four stripes. Same for vice admiral likely having three pips and two check marks von the paired collar badges aith three pips with three
If I had to tweak this design, I would put a set of small elliptical rank marks on the collar patch for all grades and I would place them vertically near the right hand edge of the patch (which is currently empty).
I’m sure we’ll learn more as the weeks go by — but it’s going so fast! We’re already getting previews for episode 3x07...!
We're at the season's hump. Six episode's done, seven remaining. After next week it'll be seven done and six remaining.
Ready Room
Bothered? Not really. I imagine that Discovery is getting a special assignment, allowing them some dispensation from Saru.
The uniforms thing will be mainly about the production team's decision to keep the Discovery crew in their established blue uniforms for aesthetic and audience-recognition purposes. There are any number of plausible in-universe reasons (crew integrity and morale, etc., etc., etc...) but ultimately that's not the primary driving force here.
They may chose to keep the Disco boys and girls in blue indefinitely but I suspect they might want to make a bit of a big "event" about changing them over to new uniforms at some point but the question is when -- end of this season? start of next season? Who knows...
This is gone be one of those things that its probably not with expending a lot of mental energy on. It is what it is and changes will happen when they happen!
They may chose to keep the Disco boys and girls in blue indefinitely but I suspect they might want to make a bit of a big "event" about changing them over to new uniforms at some point but the question is when -- end of this season? start of next season? Who knows...
This is gone be one of those things that its probably not with expending a lot of mental energy on. It is what it is and changes will happen when they happen!
Maybe it takes a good chunk of money to create new uniforms, and you have to create HUNDREDS. This is a known thing for a new series and is baked in, but in the middle of a series it may be to much of a money crunch, and the use of the old disco uniforms may be a stop gap to pay and make over time the new uniforms. Maybe.
That may be a part of it but, given the amount they have spent on creating and making all the 32nd Century Starfleet costumed for speaking parts and background extras, I would say that keeping the main cast and the rest of the Disco crew in the old 23rd Century blue uniforms is a conscious creative choice by the production team.
Do people actually care if Trek switches uniforms mid show?
I get you might prefer one over the other but it never affected my enjoyment of TOS/movies or TNG and DS9 after the changes
I get you might prefer one over the other but it never affected my enjoyment of TOS/movies or TNG and DS9 after the changes
Agreed, which if they hadn't stuffed it up, would make me very happy.
Yeah, either the Fleet Captain should be the "all gold" equivalent of the Crewman badge (no pips on the edge); or it should be the "gold and silver" version of the Fleet Admiral badge (five pips); or it should be the four pip variant with the "junior" Captain rank dropping down to three gold & one black (as logically follows from the TOS --> TNG+ conversion otherwise being stripes +1).
But they didn't do any of these things.
In "Die Trying", Admiral Vance called the Federation being in "triage". Perhaps Discovery pulling the Federation into Saru's Renaissance will lead to the launch of a brand-new USS Enterprise, the introduction of more colorful uniforms for everyone - Disco crew, Vance's Starfleet, services from rejoined planets (EDF).
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