Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x06 - "Scavengers"

[TheMadCloner]

The visuals are always great, it's just that they're hiding nice things too much. But what really stood out as incredibly bad to me was the ultra-lame robotic "dow dow dow" weapons sound

Eh, I thought it was fine. That sound they made when they powered up to go to hyperspace was pretty awesome though. That's how I like my Star Wars in my Star Trek.

 

[NCC-73515]

Call me biased, but the 32nd Century uniforms are not exactly a favorite of mine. Any excuse to stick with the old uniforms is a good one. I might as well just come right out and say it: I don't like the new uniforms. And I think they'd look garish on the Discovery sets if the entire crew wore them. No thanks.

I agree, I think the Disco uniforms are a perfect intermediate between ENT and Cage/WNMHGB, while the new ones look less interesting with their bland grayness. But since they kept archaic uniforms, they don't hide where they're from. Unless of course all visual communication is handled through holo-faking tech that makes them appear to wear the great grayness. XD

Eh, I thought it was fine. That sound they made when they powered up to go to hyperspace was pretty awesome though. That's how I like my Star Wars in my Star Trek.

It's certainly a matter of taste. I also hated that the JJ shuttles sounded like flutes, the Volcano shuttle sounded like a racecar, and the Vengeance sounded like a propeller plane XD

 

[Bollie74]

I think the best endgame for Michael, right at this moment, is for her to just quit Starfleet.

Don't get me wrong, she can still be involved. Still be the main character even. Just not in that blue uniform. She and Book should just be mercenaries together doing whatever they think is right, while also being civilian consultants on the Discovery.

I am not a Burnham hater. I live with a Burnham hater, but I am not one. I think you have it right with her needing to quit. She did not pick Starfleet, Sarek did. She does not have the emotional maturity due to her life on Vulcan as others on here eloquently wrote. She has all the weight of her experiences with Georgiou's death and the Klingon war. She just seemed sad when she popped on her uniform in the third episode.

Contrasting, how happy did she seem out of uniform adventuring with Book? Maybe its time for Burnham to make herself happy and make her own choices?

 

[fireproof78]

Then they would change the uniforms as well

Not necessarily if they allow Saru to order uniforms for Starfleet's "rapid response ship" a distinctive uniform.

 

[Kzinti]

Game of what?

Oh, yeah, the show I gave up after 2 episodes.

i wish i did the same since season 8 was so bad it retroactively made the entire thing bad

The mycelial network may be how Georgiou gets back to the 23rd century if she does indeed return.

i'm going to repeat myself but i really hope they don't return her to the 23rd century since that time period is ''been there done that'' at this point and section 31 would be much more interesting in the 32nd the only reasons i'm looking forward to SNW is that pike was such a good character and the upgraded enterprise was a really good looking ship otherwise i'm not that interested in the time period

 

[cooleddie74]

I don't even want a Section 31 series in ANY time period. It's got bad idea written all over it as a Star Trek series.

Section 31 is best when in the deep shadows and background, not weekly recurring characters.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't even want a Section 31 series in ANY time period. It's got bad idea written all over it as a Star Trek series.

Section 31 is best when in the deep shadows and background, not weekly recurring characters.

Which means it can only go up.

 

[cooleddie74]

I like Georgiou but let's just keep it at Georgiou.

 

[fireproof78]

I like Georgiou but let's just keep it at Georgiou.

Where's your sense of adventure?

 

[cooleddie74]

Get in the closet.

 

[Borgminister]

Even though this was a rote, paint-by-the-numbers adventure devoid of any true consequences aside from the sacrificial lamb who lost his head to underscore the "we're so evil" plot line, there were enough Trekian character developments and humorous moments to make this episode work to me, although the third time might not have been the charm with "wrong way" Linus during the schmalzy scene.

I enjoyed the crew reactions to the upgrades to Discovery--hell yeah we do!--, and the Shatneresque Georgiou scenery chewing and quips (I love me!) along with unconscious Terran (seemingly) flashbacks of course timed at just the right plot moments, among others. That ready room has really been decked out as well, wonder if there are any Easter eggs on those shelves.

Character dynamics were really nice in this episode as well, whether it be Stamets/Adira (life and death), Georgiou/Burnham (to trust or not to trust), or Tilly/Grudge (did you eat her?).

Not sure I'm all the way behind hero Burnham given what I see as one of the strongest ensemble casts in Star Trek history, but let's see how the Reunification goes... And can we have that Andorian join the crew after Culber regenerates those antennae?

Right now, I'd say a strong 7 weak 8, the former because of the tired, mustache twirling planetary plot, and the latter given the nicely executed character exploration...

 

[Paul755]

I liked this episode despite the idea of having Burnham decide to defy Saru. Easily a 7.

honestly, this just re-enforces what I thought after either the 2nd or 3rd episode. Burnham works better as a character without Discovery and vice-versa. The chemistry she has with Georgiou and Booker feels more natural than it does anyone else, Tilly included. If I were making the decisions I would seriously consider moving SMG over to the Section 31 show with Yeoh...assuming that show still happens. Especially since I think they end up keeping it in the same century Discovery is in.

I do think they discover Burnham and Discovery are somehow responsible for the Burn.

put me down in the anti-crying column. All the leads would get emotional (except Picard unless he was under alien influence) but not every episode.

The hugging can be a bit much too.

I think it’s funny that Stamets and Culber wear matching PJ’s that have a little Starfleet logo on them.

I do kinda hate how “Number One” has become the default title for First Officer.

 

[cooleddie74]

DSC is finally consistently good. After two seasons of being so hit-or-miss they'd make Stormtroopers look like Olympic shots the series is finally establishing itself. And all it took was taking it out of its original setting.

 

[NCC-73515]

Not necessarily if they allow Saru to order uniforms for Starfleet's "rapid response ship" a distinctive uniform.

and how would distinctive rapid response uniforms that are 100% the same as uniforms from the past hide the fact that the ship is from the past...?

 

[SolarisOne]

Stream of consciousness thoughts incoming...

I'd argue that the 'A' plot ended up being more of consequence to Georgiou than anyone, which I don't mind one bit. Since Season Three began, she's been my favorite character. Sue me.

Saru is a fucking awesome captain. Vance is likewise a good admiral (say it ain't so!)--goodmiral, anyone? I didn't mind Tilly, though it was incredibly stupid for her to hold up Grudge like that--any cat I've been around would slap you for that. Also, Grudge appears to be rather large. Stamets and Adira was good, as was Stamets and Culber. I'm all on board for future tech that actually looks futuristic, though the "separated" nacelles are kind of stupid. Someone else said the tech should be embedded--I'd agree, but this is Star Trek, after all--it's not known for hardcore transhumanism.

Linus is a perfect Trekkian comedy-relief character.

Burnham? Meh. I just don't care, except insofar as she affects Georgiou's arc. Book is cool, though. I wouldn't mind to see a Burnham-Georgiou-Book team up happen more often.

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As for next week? Vulcanoids are my favorite Trek race, so I'm SUPER stoked for the whole "Unification III" thing. If they screw this up, I'm gonna be hella pissed off. Like, Mirror-Lorca-reveal pissed (I still haven't rewatched Season One because of it.)

 

[Kzinti]

Also, Grudge appears to be rather large.

maine coon tends to be rather big and very fluffy lol

 

[Mr Awe]

Gave this on an 8. Mainly for being a fun ride!

The story was fun. Liked the upgrades. It makes sense. You can't have a 1000 year old ship in your service!

So, the Burn has a source. Hopefully, it doesn't take long to at least discover the source. Having a mystery is nice, but you don't want to take too long dragging it out. Romulans? Something related to their penchant for using singularities?

Liked seeing some of the old relics that were salvaged!

 

[Mr Awe]

Going back to the narrative issue with the Burn, there's also "show not tell."

So far, the only reason we have to believe that the Burn is some ongoing problem which affects the Federation is because Michael Burnham told us so. There has been zero evidence onscreen it actually is an ongoing issue. There were plenty of ways they could have dealt with this within the narrative of the show - like having the remaining dilithium continue to be unreliable and likely to crack or burn out at the worst moments. But they have chosen to display a galaxy that - post Burn - is in political chaos, but technologically seems just fine.

I'd agree with your interpretation. And, in fact, I'd say it's not definite that it was intentionally caused. My first guess was that it had something to do with the weakening of the fabric of space that was implied in the season opener. Maybe all the warp travel? Or, time travel? Weakened it to a point where it cause some sort of failure involving the dilithium crystals in warp drives.

I'm not sure how the fact that there seems to be a particular source affects that. I suppose the weakening could've reached a critical threshold in a particular location and spread. Like, well, a run in panty hose!

If it was caused intentionally, the Federation itself would be my top guess followed by the Mirror Universe. Vance sure looks shifty every time the Burn is mentioned. Every single time!

 

[Mr Awe]

Because they were surviving.

It just seems to be a matter of collection enough black boxes to find the origin. If two people in a freighter could do this mission, I'm sure others could as well, including a depleted Federation.

 

[Mr Awe]

Yeah, I think it will be Tilly.

Um, she's an Ensign?