Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x06 - "Scavengers"
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Does Michael even want the position back? She was first officer on the Shenzhou, and her command ambitions only seemed to stem from wanting to emulate her mentor. But that's all gone now.
Remember, Burnham's choice wasn't even to be in Starfleet. She was going to be in the Vulcan Science Academy until they refused her for xenophobic reasons and she was handed to Starfleet as the only alternative.
Michael's inability to control emotions is due to all that forcible Vulcan emotional suppression that was improperly indoctrinated into a human. Now she's like a kid who never got to play with toy super soakers suddenly being given a phaser rifle.
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That's the best they can do showing us stuff, sadly:
DS9 was centuries ago.
Good to see the ship getting upgrades, Stamets has a more convenient interface now. However, replicating and upgrading the spore drive should have top priority now so every ship gets one without the need for a human pilot (assuming anti human augment laws are still in force), and the show still hasn't directly addressed this.
The A plot is the weakest part. Burnham should at least try to explain the situation to the admiral.
Using slave labour seems like an unnecessary practice in a lot of sc-fi settings including ST, especially now that they can and do show robots, why bothering with slaves? Less efficient, possible uprisings, guards needed. Are they cheaper, easier to procure? The whole place is very miserbale and bedraggled though.
Burnham's demotion is one of the rare cases in which insubordination has consequences, I like that.
The NCC-1701 and 1701-A are the very same ship, it's how a retrofit works or can work in ST.
What's the rush? Perhaps she doesn't want to leave Booker to rot.
Yes we have. The Captain from Earth in ep. 3 says,
No one knows for sure but the fact that the Federation has been most badly affected hints at a deliberate attack.
Oh, she isn't at odds with the basic ideals (aside from the pilot ep.) but rather with the chain of command.
The Klingons plunge Starfleet into a war, Burnham's (Sarek's) plan actually may have prevented it but not without breaking the "Starfleet doesn't fire first" principle.
The A plot is the weakest part. Burnham should at least try to explain the situation to the admiral.
Using slave labour seems like an unnecessary practice in a lot of sc-fi settings including ST, especially now that they can and do show robots, why bothering with slaves? Less efficient, possible uprisings, guards needed. Are they cheaper, easier to procure? The whole place is very miserbale and bedraggled though.
Burnham's demotion is one of the rare cases in which insubordination has consequences, I like that.
The NCC-1701 and 1701-A are the very same ship, it's how a retrofit works or can work in ST.
What's the rush? Perhaps she doesn't want to leave Booker to rot.
Yes we have. The Captain from Earth in ep. 3 says,
No one knows for sure but the fact that the Federation has been most badly affected hints at a deliberate attack.
Oh, she isn't at odds with the basic ideals (aside from the pilot ep.) but rather with the chain of command.
The Klingons plunge Starfleet into a war, Burnham's (Sarek's) plan actually may have prevented it but not without breaking the "Starfleet doesn't fire first" principle.
Admiral Vance: Mr. Booker, you're the infamous scoundrel who corrupted Commander Burnham so much. Somehow I thought you'd be taller.
Book: Sorry to disappoint you.
Vance: To be honest, my opinion of Augments is so low that you'd have to work very hard indeed to disappoint me. Yes, I know you're an illegal Augment. The Augment ban was reinstated after the temporal wars when some temporal agents went a little too far augmenting themselves. Now if you want to escape spending the rest of your life in a Federation penal colony, you're going to plug into our new prototype spore drive.
Book: Jump into a black hole, you true believer scum!
Vance: I see we'll just have to plug you in ourselves. (activates device and tentacles spring out of the wall and plug directly into Book)
Book: No! No! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Grudge:
Vance:
No, they're not. The 1701 was refit (TMP/TWOK/TSFS), then Kirk self-destructed it over Genesis.
They then were given the newly rechristened NCC-1701-A (formerly the Yorktown).
The refit did not up the letter suffix.
It looks... melted?That's the best they can do showing us stuff, sadly:
God Michael is such a terrible character. Saru should have sent her to 20 years of hard labour on Rura Penthe. Maybe then she would learn her place.Was that Lauren Tom as one of the Starfleet captains? We’ve got our first Futurama actor.
I totally agree.
Burnham is to much boring, and don´t have any charisma. She could vanish with her mother in the burn, when Discovery returns in time (it will happens I think). Saru, Giorgiu, Staments, Reno, Tilly... any other character is way better and more interesting than Michael "Boring" Burnham.
Since to kill characters isn´t a trouble in this series, it would be a good time to kick off Burnham and "reboot" the show without her boring character.
No she isn't. Section 31 is supposed to be discreet and in the shadows.
Michael Burnham would have vaporized a dozen people and shouted "Section 31 was here!" complete with singing the Section 31 war chant. Luther Sloan would roll over in his grave.
Indeed, yes. So much is placed at Burnham's feet but she isn't responsible for the war. Lorca used that sense of guilt to motivate her.
My bad. Where did you get that part about the Yorktown? Doesn't appear to be canon.
That's completely wrong.
How can you not know that the NCC-1701 was completely destroyed and the NCC-1701-A was a different ship?
It isn't. In books like Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise and some online sources say that it was originally to be the Yorktown or Ti-Ho. That wasn't in the movie.
It was the emperor who waved her badge in front of everyone XD
Tilly: Captain, if you don't report Burnham's absence to Admiral Vance, he'll take away our new holodeck!!!
Saru: Not only will I report her, I'll personally recommend to Vance that she be locked into a room filled with Ceti Eels, Centaurian slugs, and parasitic ice while being injected with Borg nanoprobes.
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