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Justice League official "Zack Snyder" cut on HBO Max

I think the total opposite. Studios don't like minimum value of anything. Lately, it's go big or go home, and many actors complain about this because smaller movies are ignored for big Marvel sized ones.

Not exactly. Nowadays the smaller Indie movies are created by streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime and stuff. Mini-series as well, which are making a comeback as legit projects that A-Listers can be a part of without feeling like they're "slumming it" like stuff HBO and AMC put out.

Folks who complain about the "Big budget popcorn movies" that are "ruining culture and cinema" just aren't thinking outside the Box.

Or they're ignoring Hollywood's own "Golden Age" of cinema which were stuffed with big budget Epic flicks.

And those same folks who complain about silly it is to go watch movies about people in costumes are ignoring all the great movies people went to see where actors are dressed up like Swashbucklers or Cowboys or Shakespearean Era folks.
 
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Those were rubber bullets, which are at least meant to be nonlethal. Zack Snyder had a batmobile armed with actual machine guns.

That said, I hate Frank Miller so I'm not going to put much effort into defending any of his stuff :shrug:
 
Those were rubber bullets, which are at least meant to be nonlethal. Zack Snyder had a batmobile armed with actual machine guns.

That said, I hate Frank Miller so I'm not going to put much effort into defending any of his stuff :shrug:
How do you know those machine guns on Snyder's batmobile weren't armed with rubber bullets? :p
 
I've always been a bit frightened by Miller's obsession with prostitutes.

Prostitutes and just badly writing women in general. Try to read his Wonder Woman appearances in All Star Batman without screaming in terror (and no, they aren't supposed to be horrifying...) :barf2:
 
Prostitutes and just badly writing women in general. Try to read his Wonder Woman appearances in All Star Batman without screaming in terror (and no, they aren't supposed to be horrifying...) :barf2:

The version that called men "Sperm Banks" and there to also just be Superman's "I hate you but I love you" sidekick?

It's heartbreaking to see how much Miller devolved over time, when you consider how human and sympathetic he made Superman in the original "The Dark Knight Returns" series.

And BTW, David Fincher got back into the Anti-Comic Book thing. This time he took a swipe at "Joker".

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/david-fincher-joker-betrayal-mentally-ill-1234598884/
 
Prostitutes and just badly writing women in general. Try to read his Wonder Woman appearances in All Star Batman without screaming in terror (and no, they aren't supposed to be horrifying...) :barf2:
Yeah, he has some serious issue when it comes to women.
 
Goddamn, that is a terrible design. How am I supposed to focus on the fucking image if it has so many lines, shading and shadows?
 
Yawn.

And more...yawn.

Yawn is what I did during the trailer.

For real, what did taking the colour away and using the plodding overused (he even used it in his OTHER superhero movie!) song add to this? This is the Justice League, this should be more exciting and less lethargic. If the trailer almost put me to sleep, what's the actual movie going to do?

On the plus side, I'm that much more excited for Wonder Woman 84 now.
 
I mean, black and white isn't even bad...I just don't understand what it is supposed to mean.
 
Yawn is what I did during the trailer.

For real, what did taking the colour away and using the plodding overused (he even used it in his OTHER superhero movie!) song add to this? This is the Justice League, this should be more exciting and less lethargic. If the trailer almost put me to sleep, what's the actual movie going to do?

On the plus side, I'm that much more excited for Wonder Woman 84 now.
1) We already got the cartoony MCU Avengers wannabe version.
2) Leonard Cohen is a god-like legend where I live (so I'll admit to the bias).
3) The biggest reason I gave a "yawn" is the sheer predictability of the criticism (ooh..so "pretentious"). Generally speaking, people expressing such opinions about Snyder's version are exceedingly unlikely to watch his version without having already decided how bad and "wrong" it will be--so why should he even consider making an effort to appease those who've already written off his project?
4) Believe it or not, it is possible to be excited for both Snyder's project and WW'84 (I certainly am).
 
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