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Spoilers Fantastic Beasts 3 has been officially greenlit, and will be set in Rio de Janeiro

It's a pity how people all seem to know exactly what the Depp/Heard situation was all about.....

Being a male coming from a very toxic relationship..... I'm not going to say Depp is a saint. But yeah, Heard's behavior seems quite familiar to me.
 
I don't remember where, but I thought I read somewhere when all of the drama over Depp and Heard first started, that it was more of mutual two sided thing, not just Depp. Which doesn't justify his behavior, but it does mean that she's not totally innocent in this whole thing.
 
JD said:
I don't remember where, but I thought I read somewhere when all of the drama over Depp and Heard first started, that it was more of mutual two sided thing, not just Depp. Which doesn't justify his behavior, but it does mean that she's not totally innocent in this whole thing.
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Which is exactly my point. Depp is considered the evil side in all of this. When all evidence is taken into account, she is just as much a 'villian' in all of this. She should be fired from L'Oreal, Aquaman2, SnyderJL.
 
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StCoop said:
Yeah, those bitches are always asking for it, right? Jesus.
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Where did I say that? I started out saying she made a case. Enough that the judge agreed with her. But his judgment seems to have overlooked the fact that one, she was proven to have bruised her own face to make Depp look bad, and two, He Got The End Of His Finger Cut Off. She's a violent psychopath in a female meat-suit. Much of what he did may well have been in self-defense.

Guys like you get called White Knights. And not as a compliment.
 
Now that the movie has been pushed back does this mean that 'The Flash' will get pushed back again too? It's November 2022 for the Flash and Summer 2022 for Fantastic Beasts 3 but wasn't Flash pushed back previously because they wanted Ezra Miller to complete the filming on Fantastic Beasts 3?

Reverend said:
Good riddance. Even without the by no means minor detail that he's a domestic abuser, his shtick got old even before the Pirates movies fizzled out.

Not that I think the casting would have made Grindlewald any less of a tedious, forgettable slog of a movie, but Colin Farrell's performance in the first one was far and away more engaging, and I'd always thought they'd have been better served just sticking with him from the get-go.
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The problem I have with the character's portrayal is that he is made to look evil and over the top, a lot of that comes from Depp. But I see Grindlewald as someone much tamer. It's hard to imagine that Dumbledore fell in love with Depp's version of Grindlewald.
 
Saul said:
The problem I have with the character's portrayal is that he is made to look evil and over the top, a lot of that comes from Depp. But I see Grindlewald as someone much tamer. It's hard to imagine that Dumbledore fell in love with Depp's version of Grindlewald.
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Agreed. I could see it with the Farrell version but definitely not the Depp version.
 
You know the more I think about it, the more it actually makes the first movie retroactively weird knowing a tedious, forgettable comic book villain is running around pretending to be an interesting, charismatic manipulator who genuinely has some depth *as a disguise*.
I mean that's like revealing Hannibal Lecter was actually just Skeletor the whole time. Raises the question how did *he* pull off *that* act?
 
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Most all contracts at that level are pay or play. For the actors it guards against loosing work if a production fails or gets shut down. So no, Depp won't loose money from this gig specifically, but he will loose any ancillary bookings associated with it and it essentially ends his career in family entertainment for the foreseeable future.
 
Mads Mikkelsen? Oh damn, that would be great! But I could never imagine him been the same character as Depp's version.

JD said:
Oh, I didn't realize that was standard.
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Check out how much Jack Nicholson earned from all the Batman movies he wasn't in.
 
Aragorn said:
Mads Mikkelsen in talks to take over as Gellert Grindelwald.
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Glad to hear it, so I wonder if he was lying when he said he didn't know anything about it, or if they just got in contact with him after that interview
 
Gaith said:
Again, my opinion is that said universe is fundamentally silly. Not that silly is inherently bad - the first three Wallace and Gromit shorts and the feature film, for instance, are silly and great - but a silly fictional universe is not a great fit for dark and brooding WW2 allegories, IMO. In a flick about kids on an adventure at a magic boarding school, waving small sticks around works because it reflects the whimsy of childhood, and puts youngsters and adults on a more or less equal footing. When it's a story about just adults... not so much. (When making the Gandalf/Saruman fight in Fellowship of the Ring, Peter Jackson wisely avoided making their staffs shoot out any kind of CG luminescence.)

Given that Yates' Wizarding World movies all looks drab and dreary as heck, moreover, I have no confidence whatsoever that the move to Rio will bring any of the color or vitality that's been missing since Goblet of Fire back to the franchise.
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Gaith said:
Exactly - elements. It also used to have light and fanciful elements, however, such as House point competitions, Quidditch games, adolescent romance, and using dragons in inter-school sporting competitions. But, starting in Year 5, Rowling's previously canny balancing act toppled over onto the dark and brooding side, and the franchise has gone creatively downhill ever since.

The premise of FB1 seemed to acknowledge the franchise's enduring need for light and fanciful elements, but by all accounts, FB2 forgot that entirely.
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Now that the thread has been bumped, I thought you might like this video from Inside The Score talking about the franchise's inconsistency.
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Also, I remember reading a lot of complaints about the White Council portion of the Hobbit trilogy saying that the combat scenes looked more appropriate for Rowling's world than for Tolkien's. This video is also amusing.
 
And we have a trailer:
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I have to admit, I have kind of mixed feelings on this now, with JK Rowling, but I still love this world, I liked the first two movies, and there are a lot of other people involved I like. So I'll probably still see it, because while I'm not a fan of the idea of supporting Rowling, there a lot of other people involved who I don't mind supporting.
 
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