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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy General Discussion Thread

I’m wondering if, despite the Janeway thing, that the show takes place during DSC season 3. Because the concept of a bunch of kids stumbling onto an abandoned Starfleet vessel just reeks of post-Burn antics. Perhaps Janeway is a holographic captain and the real Janeway is long dead.
 
I’m wondering if, despite the Janeway thing, that the show takes place during DSC season 3. Because the concept of a bunch of kids stumbling onto an abandoned Starfleet vessel just reeks of post-Burn antics. Perhaps Janeway is a holographic captain and the real Janeway is long dead.
They should just rename the whole thing to: "Magic School Bus: The Next Generation" ;)
 
This series may lack the over the top violence and off-color humor Lower Decks have sometimes, but it will be more relevant than the 1973 cartoon. It may be the most relevant of the modern Trek series because it will be aimed at kids on a kids network, aimed more at new fans than older ones.

An interesting question is who should be the antagonist? By the late 24th century the Romulans and Cardassians are weakened, the Klingons are allied with the Federation and the Dominion and Borg are keeping to themselves. There is always Section 31, the Federation's Black Ops division or the Iconians, more obscure aliens who became the main villains of Star Trek Online. I assume Janeway is pursuing the runaway protagonist teens of this series.

What sort of tone should this series have? Star Trek can go from goofy to dark to back again depending on the episode. Are the Borg too scary for kids? Should this series have a tone similar to Star Wars Clone Wars or something more light-hearted? The beauty of Star Trek is the main cast would have tools and an outlook that would prevent them from being too violent, Star Fleet morals and phasers with a stun setting, while the villains would have no such morals and be armed with disruptors with only a kill setting. Thus this show can have action without violence (the heroes can stun their enemies rather than kill them).
 
An interesting question is who should be the antagonist?

"The" antagonist? Why should there be only one? Sure, it's fairly common for children's cartoons to have a single main villain for the heroes to fight, but we don't know this is going to be that kind of cartoon format.


By the late 24th century the Romulans and Cardassians are weakened, the Klingons are allied with the Federation and the Dominion and Borg are keeping to themselves. There is always Section 31, the Federation's Black Ops division or the Iconians, more obscure aliens who became the main villains of Star Trek Online. I assume Janeway is pursuing the runaway protagonist teens of this series.

I don't think it's been established what the series's time frame is. Since it's animation, we don't know if Janeway is older or younger than she was on Voyager. For all we know, this is about her first command before Voyager, or maybe she's even one of the teen protagonists. Or she could be a holographic recreation of Janeway centuries after the fact, or something something time travel.
 
that would explain the captain rank they gave her when we know she's an admiral in nemesis

Kirk jumped back and forth between Admiral and Captain.

I don't see why Janeway cannot do likewise.


Since it's animation, we don't know if Janeway is older or younger than she was on Voyager. For all we know, this is about her first command before Voyager, or maybe she's even one of the teen protagonists.

How does she go from Bloomington. Indiana to a lawless region of space? :wtf:
 
I thought Voyager was her first command?

I continue to be bewildered that people think that. She stated quite clearly in Tuvok's promotion ceremony in "Revulsion" that she first met Tuvok nine years earlier (i.e. six years before the series began) at a review board following her first command.
 
I continue to be bewildered that people think that. She stated quite clearly in Tuvok's promotion ceremony in "Revulsion" that she first met Tuvok nine years earlier (i.e. six years before the series began) at a review board following her first command.
Because in the episode "Shattered" Janeway states that her first command isn't shaping up the way she expected when her and future Chakotay are going through different pockets of time and seeing Voyager at various steps.
 
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"The" antagonist? Why should there be only one? Sure, it's fairly common for children's cartoons to have a single main villain for the heroes to fight, but we don't know this is going to be that kind of cartoon format.

A lot of cartoons have one villain faction throughout the season or series that the heroes fight, the Diamonds from Steven Universe, the Galra Empire in Voltron, the Fire Nation in Avatar the Last Airbender, etc.

I don't think it's been established what the series's time frame is. Since it's animation, we don't know if Janeway is older or younger than she was on Voyager. For all we know, this is about her first command before Voyager, or maybe she's even one of the teen protagonists. Or she could be a holographic recreation of Janeway centuries after the fact, or something something time travel.

I do not think you want to make this show too convoluted for kids, Janeway as just a Star Fleet officer that might be chasing after these teens may be easier to explain to kids than having her time travel to the 23rd century or something.
 
I do not think you want to make this show too convoluted for kids, Janeway as just a Star Fleet officer that might be chasing after these teens may be easier to explain to kids than having her time travel to the 23rd century or something.
The showrunners for Prodigy were heavily involved in Tales of Arcadia for Netflix, the most recent series being set in multiple time periods due to time-travel shenanigans. I know they didn't work on that season, but I don't see why kids would find time-travel hard to understand in a Star Trek cartoon. It's not going to be aimed at pre-schoolers.
 
Because in the episode "Shattered" Janeway states that her first command isn't shaping up the way she expected when her and future Chakotay are going through different pockets of time and seeing Voyager at various steps.

Which was obviously a continuity error if you remember "Revulsion." Same as "Fury" claiming Tuvok was less than 100 years old when that would have made him less than 17 in "Flashback." The later seasons often made a hash of previously established continuity.


A lot of cartoons have one villain faction throughout the season or series that the heroes fight...

Obviously you didn't read my entire paragraph that you quoted, because I explicitly addressed that.


The showrunners for Prodigy were heavily involved in Tales of Arcadia for Netflix, the most recent series being set in multiple time periods due to time-travel shenanigans. I know they didn't work on that season, but I don't see why kids would find time-travel hard to understand in a Star Trek cartoon. It's not going to be aimed at pre-schoolers.

Hear, hear. Lots of children's shows feature time travel. It's not that hard a thing to imagine. Indeed, the concept of moving non-linearly through time meshes perfectly with how our brains naturally work -- we can effortlessly recall the past or imagine the future. That's why time travel is such a perennial theme in fiction, because it feels so natural to us. If anything, it might be harder for a child to learn that we can't actually go to those times we can imagine so easily.
 
Which was obviously a continuity error if you remember "Revulsion." Same as "Fury" claiming Tuvok was less than 100 years old when that would have made him less than 17 in "Flashback." The later seasons often made a hash of previously established continuity.
Since I didn't recall that it wasn't not obvious to me. So, I appreciate your referencing the other episode.
 
Which was obviously a continuity error if you remember "Revulsion." Same as "Fury" claiming Tuvok was less than 100 years old when that would have made him less than 17 in "Flashback." The later seasons often made a hash of previously established continuity.




Obviously you didn't read my entire paragraph that you quoted, because I explicitly addressed that.

There is no need to be rude, I just saying having an ongoing antagonist in cartoon series is common (even if it doesn't happen all the time), so its a perfectly valid question to ask, so what's wrong with asking it?

You also seemed to ignore the main point of my post, like what kind of tone this show should have and how should they handle action in this show.

The showrunners for Prodigy were heavily involved in Tales of Arcadia for Netflix, the most recent series being set in multiple time periods due to time-travel shenanigans. I know they didn't work on that season, but I don't see why kids would find time-travel hard to understand in a Star Trek cartoon. It's not going to be aimed at pre-schoolers.

Sure, but if it's set in the 23rd century, there are a million other characters that can fit that type of role, if Janeway is time traveling to the past, seemingly to deal with some runaways, there needs to be a good reason for it.
 
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Sure, but if it's set in the 23rd century, there are a million other characters that can fit that type of role, if Janeway is time traveling to the past, seemingly to deal with some runaways, there needs to be a good reason for it.

I never suggested the 23rd century. Time travel can be forward too.
 
Instead of getting worked up over hypothetical show premises, maybe we should reserve our judgment for when we find out what the premise of the show actually is.[/crazytalk]
 
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