Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x02 - "Far From Home"

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Thought the episode was better than last week's. Nice to see Saru taking command of the ship. I wonder what was going on with Detmer. Was it Control that got into her?

Discovery was nearly destroyed and the Sphere's data didn't manifest itself to protect the ship. Why not?

It looks like the 32nd century needs much more the Empress' "guidance" than the Federation per se.

I don't understand how a small ship like Book's managed to tractor beam Discovery from the unusual ice.

We're still not seeing much of the 32nd century besides planets packed with mercenaries/outlaws and a damaged relay station. I hope this changes in future eps.

 

[TheMadCloner]

Well, you only have to watch him eat. What he could do with that tongue. Don't worry about Linus, he can handle himself. He was hatched ready.

The end of the trilogy, "The Naked Time", "The Naked Now" and "The Naked Future."

If the OD story is on Star Trek HBO, I think this story would probably be on Star Trek Cinemax.

 

[Irvy]

Thought the episode was better than last week's. Nice to see Saru taking command of the ship. I wonder what was going on with Detmer. Was it Control that got into her?

Discovery was nearly destroyed and the Sphere's data didn't manifest itself to protect the ship. Why not?

It looks like the 32nd century needs much more the Empress' "guidance" than the Federation per se.

I don't understand how a small ship like Book's managed to tractor beam Discovery from the unusual ice.

We're still not seeing much of the 32nd century besides planets packed with mercenaries/outlaws and a damaged relay station. I hope this changes in future eps.

Discovery's shields were down, it crashed onto parasitic ice that held it like a vice, and then they just plugged a new ribbon in reinstalled the router, replaced a few bulbs and ran a vacuum round, and they were spaceworthy again. I think the sphere data did a pretty good job of preserving itself. I mean, they'd pretty much fixed the ship by the time they got back, the hardest part that required great danger was fixing the phone.

 

[Isaac Lawrence]

I don't understand how a small ship like Book's managed to tractor beam Discovery from the unusual ice.

It may not have been Cleveland Booker's ship.

And if it was, we still have no idea what the limitations of 32nd century technology is...

I'm not sure the cinematography is getting enough credit here. This was a old-school TOS-style episode with some of the most beautiful outdoor shots Trek has ever seen.

Between the season finale of Picard and the first two episodes of Discovery this season, we've had some truly breathtaking visuals, and I don't mean CGI.

No question about it. This episode was even more impressive visually to me than last week.

Next season, and I guess every Star Trek show going forward is getting it, but Alex Kurtzman said that they're getting AR walls. Like The Mandalorian. It'll be interesting to see how Star Trek uses it.

With The Mandalorian they're basically just using it for the vistas of their various desert planet scenes, because the show is trying to recapture the look and feel of A New Hope. With the Star Trek shows I would imagine that they'd be a bit more creative. Mainly I wonder how well they can depict cities with AR walls, because I haven't seen it done. A Starfleet Academy show could be possible...

 

[Irvy]

It may not have been Cleveland Booker's ship.

And if it was, we still have no idea what the limitations of 32nd century technology is...


No question about it. This episode was even more impressive visually to me than last week.

Next season, and I guess every Star Trek show going forward is getting it, but Alex Kurtzman said that they're getting AR walls. Like The Mandalorian. It'll be interesting to see how Star Trek uses it.

With The Mandalorian they're basically just using it for the vista's of their various desert planet scenes, because the show is trying to recapture the look and feel of A New Hope. With the Star Trek shows I would imagine that they'd be a bit more creative. Mainly I wonder how well they can depict cities with AR walls, because I haven't seen it done. A Starfleet Academy show could be possible...

It's not AR, and the Mandalorian did a lot of internal scenes in the Volume as well. Basically, if nobody was running and no masonry was exploding, they were probably in the volume.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Thought the episode was better than last week's. Nice to see Saru taking command of the ship. I wonder what was going on with Detmer. Was it Control that got into her?

Discovery was nearly destroyed and the Sphere's data didn't manifest itself to protect the ship. Why not?

It looks like the 32nd century needs much more the Empress' "guidance" than the Federation per se.

I don't understand how a small ship like Book's managed to tractor beam Discovery from the unusual ice.

We're still not seeing much of the 32nd century besides planets packed with mercenaries/outlaws and a damaged relay station. I hope this changes in future eps.

Discovery was heavily damaged which may have hindered the sphere data's attempts to protect itself.

Burnham isn't on book's ship. Rhys said the approaching vessel was 'big'.

We're going to meet 32nd century starfleet next week by the looks of the promo. So yes we will see more than outlaws and mercenaries.

 

[Lord Garth]

Mullet Guy is my favorite villain in Discovery thus far. He's gruesome, threatening, and that gun of his is something else.

I kind of wish Georgiou did kill him. Letting him live is going to bite them in the ass later on. I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of him. He'd be right at home in Deadwood.

 

[Irvy]

Mullet Guy is my favorite villain in Discovery thus far. He's gruesome, threatening, and that gun of his is something else.

I kind of wish Georgiou did kill him. Letting him live is going to bite them in the ass later on. I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of him. He'd be right at home in Deadwood.

And they owe him a ship. And Saru made a speech about not interfering anymore, then handed the sole survivor the slow horrible death phaser that Georgiou wanted to keep and absolved himself of whatever happened next.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Mullet Guy is my favorite villain in Discovery thus far. He's gruesome, threatening, and that gun of his is something else.

I kind of wish Georgiou did kill him. Letting him live is going to bite them in the ass later on. I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of him. He'd be right at home in Deadwood.

I think we might see him again. Jake Weber is pretty big name to get for one off guest spot.

 

[Irvy]

And nobody's complaining that yet again, as per usual, it's a woman who crashes the ship into a planet. I mean, how can you not see a planet? It's right there!

 

[Mr Awe]

I think what's left of the Federation and whatever of it became the V'Draysh are two different things. I see the V'Draysh being the Main Enemies in Discovery. They'll be DSC's version of the Borg or Dominion.

I'm thinking that too. But I think there will be a twist of some sort. Possibly in who specifically controls the V'Draysh. If I had to guess, I'd say it'll be a twist, such as being the Vulcans. Perhaps using logic without emotion, they've decided it was logical to become dominant to protect themselves. There is a logic to that. Mirror Spock was pretty much that in Mirror, Mirror. Imagine the V'Draysh run by a bunch of Mirror Spocks! Fascinating.

 

[Lord Garth]

Georgiou vs. Zara & His Gang

This is one of my favorite non-TOS Star Trek fights.

 

[Kraig]

Mullet Guy is my favorite villain in Discovery thus far. He's gruesome, threatening, and that gun of his is something else.

I kind of wish Georgiou did kill him. Letting him live is going to bite them in the ass later on. I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of him. He'd be right at home in Deadwood.

He did star in the western Hell on Wheels with Colm Meaney and Anson Mount about the building of the first United States Transcontinental Railroad in the late 1860's.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Georgiou vs. Zara & His Gang

This is one of my favorite non-TOS Star Trek fights.

If would have been TOS if she took her shirt off and they had Gorn fight music

 

[Lord Garth]

If would have been TOS if she took her shirt off and they had Gorn fight music

"Amok Time" music and we're sold!

 

[Nerys Myk]

He did star in the western Hell on Wheels with Colm Meaney and Anson Mount about the building of the first United States Transcontinental Railroad in the late 1860's.

So that's where I saw him.

 

[Mr Awe]

I saw a theory on reddit that the Burnham we saw at the end of this episode isn't the real Burnham. The crew will probably find her locked up in Book's brig or something much later in the season, and this is a changeling that Book is using to use the crew to further his evil plot.

Books not going to have an evil plot. He's being presented as a positive character. He's concerned about the environment (fabric of space), preserving endangered species, and lives on a preserve planet. He's not going to be a bad guy.

I mean, I suppose it could be a fake out, but I doubt it.

 

[Irvy]

I'm thinking that too. But I think there will be a twist of some sort. Possibly in who specifically controls the V'Draysh. If I had to guess, I'd say it'll be a twist, such as being the Vulcans. Perhaps using logic without emotion, they've decided it was logical to become dominant to protect themselves. There is a logic to that. Mirror Spock was pretty much that in Mirror, Mirror. Imagine the V'Draysh run by a bunch of Mirror Spocks! Fascinating.

Haven't we already been told by Chabon that V'Draysh is the slang term for the Federation in the 32C? FEDeRATion

 

[Slugboy]

I'm thinking that too. But I think there will be a twist of some sort. Possibly in who specifically controls the V'Draysh

I had assumed that "V'Draysh" was just a syncope of "Federation", which might have evolved as follows:

Federation
Federayshun
Vederayshun
V'drayshun
V'draysh

Other linguistic changes transformed "the common tongue" into the pidgin that Zareh and his goons were speaking, i.e. "There are greater spoils to be had" transforming into "Izee bigger freeups to be getting".

 

[Isaac Lawrence]

It's not AR, and the Mandalorian did a lot of internal scenes in the Volume as well. Basically, if nobody was running and no masonry was exploding, they were probably in the volume.

If you're saying that The Mandalorian's Volume isn't AR, yeah, that's true. And yeah, they shoot interior scenes with it too, it's just that the exterior scenes is where the Volume is a real breakthrough. I should have been more precise.

If you're talking about what Alex Kurtzman said, his "AR wall," I'm assuming what he's talking about them getting is some professional, high-end version of a product that a company called ARwall sells.

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(And I guess that is David Ajala in that clip.)

And that of course isn't augmented reality either, but yeah... it's just a product name.