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If Money is not a driving force for the federation, what would actually work to replace this....

Full circle. There's a good kid video called "The Fisherman who Needed a Knife" that explains how money came to be. Barter is, in the end, the heart of the system. Money just made it more efficient.

Here's a clip from the video...

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This sort of explanation for how barter and money came to be is very common. Pretty much every Econ 101 text has a passage early on explaining how in ye olden times people started first bartering and then graduated to using primitive forms of money.

However, there's a good book by the anthropologist David Graeber called Debt: The First 5000 Years, which basically states that all those explanations are pretty much bullshit and not supported by what we know of ancient times. In fact debt systems preceded currency and barter never really happened in the way economists describe. It's a big, complicated book and I can't do it justice here, but if you're interested check out the synopsis on the wikipedia page which I've linked above.

I should note that Graeber, who died recently, was an avowed anarchist and a rather controversial figure. Although one may not agree with a lot of the conclusions he reached, I haven't seen much in the way of criticism of his scholarship on the historical and anthropological record.
 
Yeah, the first fisherman probably didn't have anything to trade for the knife, and just promised the knifeman that he'd return it when done, perhaps with a fish or two. So that's a payment plan with interest. While the knifeman is waiting, the fisherman is indebted to him for the knife.
 
The humans of the 24th century are vastly different to us, they may as well be aliens, you're talking hundreds of years. They likely only got rid of currency shortly after the formation of the Federation. It's only over a hundred years since people got the vote, only 150 years since the slave trade was officially abolished. And that is a very Western focused point of view.
 
As @Deks already stated, i would imagine it's just the motivation to discover the unknown and help society advance to work in starfleet.
Heck, i would work for free in StarFleet right now if they would provide shelter and food and once in a while a shoreleave.
 
Hi, all. This is a non-Trek forum, and we do have a place here to discuss general Star Trek topics. If you wanted to discuss real-life economics, UBI, or how you would see a cashless society working for us in reality, then feel free to do so here. But since this thread seems to specifically be about the situation in the Star Trek universe, I'm going to have to move it to General Trek. (Even though I'm sure @Nyotarules and @1001001 will be thrilled to pieces with me for throwing another "no money in the Federation" thread their way. Sorry.)
I will refrain from calling you names...(damn Klingon)
 
The idea that human beings in general don't want to do work is flawed. Most people want to do work that is meaningful to them, that is emotionally fulfilling in some way. What they don't want to do is work that is not emotionally fulfilling, or whose only ultimate utility is to make someone else richer. That's why Star Trek's idea of a future in which greed is no longer the driving force for humanity and in which poverty does not exist, is still a meaningful vision.
 
Before replication, where poverty has ended on Earth, the Universal Basic Income must be in effect during the 22nd century. Along with free education and healthcare.
Sorry USA rampant capitalism lost...
 
Give me replicators and I'll worry less about capitalism.
You would need to think about how much it cost to run and maintain that replicator.

And you have a replicator, okay. You still need shelter and transportation.

Unless you're going to live in your replicator and some how drive it around
 
Even among the Ferengi, it seems that gold pressed latinum is not so much valuable in its own right as an agreed currency (or basis for a currency, like the gold standard).
 
You would need to think about how much it cost to run and maintain that replicator.

And you have a replicator, okay. You still need shelter and transportation.

Unless you're going to live in your replicator and some how drive it around
I'd rather not drive so I think it will be OK :)

I'd just be replicating giant Lego blocks to build a house.
 
Reg Barclay is displeased with you :lol:
Well, I agree with Obi-Wan...

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there was an early cyberpunk novel, probably by Bruce Sterling, where one of the main currencies in the solar system was Geisha Bank. Time with the Geishas was sold in hours and became a trade item in what was otherwise a society with few shortages, apparently a good lay was worth something.
 
You would need to think about how much it cost to run and maintain that replicator.

I imagine that 24th century Trek replicators would be able to replicate themselves (although I have never seen it happen during my cursory viewing of post-TNG shows/films), thus rendering wear and tear a meaningless concept. In any event, Arthur C. Clarke devoted an entire chapter to a replicator-based economy in his 1962 non-fiction volume, Profiles of the Future.
 
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