Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"
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So you're saying it's Star Trek?
Probably. Though it seems like they could've taken two differing angles for the two differing plot elements.
Starfleet personnel have been landing on planets where people speak English or where no one notices the motion of their mouths does not match the words coming out of the UT. Odd is part of the job description
I am. I'd never say I wasn't. You're taking this in a direction other than the way that I intended.Like it or not, you're every bit the true believer that anyone else here is.
Some "True Believers" might not accept Burnham. "We didn't hear anything about Spock having a sister! What kind of a ship is Discovery?"
True believers use the mycelia network to get around, its only the heretics that have to steal or scrounge for dilithium
Lets see how it plays out.
I'm not telling people not to watch, just giving my two quatloos.
I wasn't saying you were.
That Hope is You Part 1
The first episode of the third season. It is the 32nd Century and the Federation has seen better days. But more on that below. Burnham arrives in the 32nd Century and has a close encounter with a ship. The interactions between her and Booker were interesting. That he wouldn't hear her out at first is believable, but maybe Burnham should have found the city and the information about the Burn another way? As for the Burn, the dilithium obviously didn't explode all at once by itself. There may be someone responsible.
Burnham and Book then go to a city on the planet, where Orions and Andorians are running security. This part is well presented. But Book misleads Burnham as to where the communications array is. Burnham on the truth drug was presented very well. (And may be funny unintentionally.) It certainly a rather good part of this episode. That she didn't blab everything was certainly believable. (As if she was trying to fight the compulsion to tell the truth. She was certainly being truthful, from a certain point of view.)
In any case, the city or planet may not be part of a larger polity, like the Federation but it seems to be working. But Burnham stealing dilithium from a vaunt and Book taking her on an escape course was well done, even if the rapid fire transporting and firing looks like a video game. (Do those blasters even have stun settings? Did Burnham just assume they didn't?) The creature gulping up Burnham was a bit much too. (But it was good to see a Lurian amongst the guards.) Book being a conservationist amongst a family of hunters was a good twist.
The bookends with the liason officer were well done. That people would hold onto the ideals of the Federation in the time of adversity after the Burn is believable and a encouragement in this particular time of adversity. Burnham's hope that the Discovery would be found was good too. 8.6/10.
Note
I have been rewatching Andromeda, so there will be some comparisons between the two shows.
The first episode of the third season. It is the 32nd Century and the Federation has seen better days. But more on that below. Burnham arrives in the 32nd Century and has a close encounter with a ship. The interactions between her and Booker were interesting. That he wouldn't hear her out at first is believable, but maybe Burnham should have found the city and the information about the Burn another way? As for the Burn, the dilithium obviously didn't explode all at once by itself. There may be someone responsible.
Burnham and Book then go to a city on the planet, where Orions and Andorians are running security. This part is well presented. But Book misleads Burnham as to where the communications array is. Burnham on the truth drug was presented very well. (And may be funny unintentionally.) It certainly a rather good part of this episode. That she didn't blab everything was certainly believable. (As if she was trying to fight the compulsion to tell the truth. She was certainly being truthful, from a certain point of view.)
In any case, the city or planet may not be part of a larger polity, like the Federation but it seems to be working. But Burnham stealing dilithium from a vaunt and Book taking her on an escape course was well done, even if the rapid fire transporting and firing looks like a video game. (Do those blasters even have stun settings? Did Burnham just assume they didn't?) The creature gulping up Burnham was a bit much too. (But it was good to see a Lurian amongst the guards.) Book being a conservationist amongst a family of hunters was a good twist.
The bookends with the liason officer were well done. That people would hold onto the ideals of the Federation in the time of adversity after the Burn is believable and a encouragement in this particular time of adversity. Burnham's hope that the Discovery would be found was good too. 8.6/10.
Note
I have been rewatching Andromeda, so there will be some comparisons between the two shows.
Sahil's father and grandfather were both commissioned Starfleet officers. Perhaps they passed their security clearances and codes on to him?
Yeah it's almost like it's made up and actually written beforehand...oh.wait...
Is there no nit you won't pick just for the sake of nitpicking...
Shit, man. I thought this was a discussion board, you know... to discuss what we think about when we watch these episodes. There is the ignore button if my presence bothers you.
Yes, because star trek has never ever in its 50 year history made things convenient for our heroes.
Come off it.
If you have valid criticisms, make them. If you can only pick nits, sit down.
What is a valid criticism? Seriously? Because from where I'm sitting, no matter the criticism of the last three years, it simply gets brushed off by the pro-Discovery brigade as nitpicks or being done by haters.
And, unless you're a Mod, you don't get to tell anyone to sit down. Like I mentioned before, there is an ignore function, feel free to use it.
To be fair...and you know I have my criticisms of DSC and they are numerous...but in Trek 2009 which most posters here seem to love or at least like and respect as a reboot of the movie franchise the Enterprise ejects Cadet Kirk to the surface of Delta Vega so that his disruptive influence has been removed from the ship. His escape pod lands suspiciously close to both where Spock Prime has chosen to hide out as well as Scotty's installation. Both are within walking distance of Kirk's landing site and in frigid Arctic-looking weather with lots of snow and ice. That's an example of convenient crashing or landing in a story.
No one has said it hasn't happened in Star Trek before, and will likely happen again. But there is no harm in pointing it out, like there was no harm in pointing it out in 2009 or when it happens again in the future.
Oh, they're both painfully obvious. Trek loves plot holes so big you could fly a Dominion invasion fleet through them.
Make a criticism that has substance and relevant to discovery. If all you can criticise is that the writers made something convenient for the sake of plot, which is something all Trek series are guilty of and is often overlooked, why is that worthy of discussion? Its low hanging fruit and you know it.
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