Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"

[F. King Daniel]

With the red trees, I wish the planet Book and Michael dropped off the transworm was Nibiru. It would have been super cool for us to see primitives in the 23rd century as an advanced civilisation in the 32nd.

 

[137th Gebirg]

It actually occurred to me that that planet (with the red leaves) might possibly have been Nibiru. Would have been a neat tie-in.

 

[cooleddie74]

That was my thought at first as well until one remembers that the planet(Sanctuary 4?) is probably almost as distant as Terralysium which was over 50,000 light-years from the Federation and Earth and I doubt even the more advanced warp drives of the Kelvin Timeline could have gotten the Enterprise THAT far.

 

[Noname Given]

I know he had Bendii disease or whatever, but I didn't get the impression Sarek died before his time or had many years left in him.

Per the TNG episode Unification, Sarek was 201 earth years old when he died. And from most sources the average lifespan of a Vulcan was around 200 years. Humans of that era had an average lifespan of 130 years.

 

[cooleddie74]

If T'Pol is still alive in the DSC timeframe then she'd be roughly 170 years old. Pushing it but still very much within the established lifespans of Vulcans born in the 21st and 22nd centuries.

 

[Nyotarules]

So I see a trip to 31st century Boreth in Georgiou's future..

 

[BillJ]

probably outside of communication range, since the subspace relays, no longer being maintained, have failed

Burnham made the old guy "acting communications officer" or some such, which doesn't make much sense if there are no communications available.

 

[NCC-73515]

Better than non-com desk-sitting officer XD

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Spoiler

They only showed it once, with no option to go back and replay even a few seconds, and without subtitles, so it's very possible I missed it, but as I recall, it was only implied it's the same planet because they immediately crash there after they leave the wormhole, just like Burnham did. They land on a glacier and then walk to a saloon. So the sets and landscape we see are different, but could still be the same planet. I don't wanna spoil how she finds them, cause it's a really nice scene, but if you don't mind, here it is:

Spoiler

Disco is about to get crushed by the growing glacier, everyone's about to die, when suddenly there's a blue glow and they're being pulled out, in a nice nod to how the Shenzhou was saved in the pilot, and the prisoner shuttle was saved in S1E3. The little ship pulling them out is hailing... and it's Burnham, revealing that she's been there for a year. The E3 preview then shows them hugging and reuniting on the Disco.

Thank you! Also thank you for the spoilerception there.

 

[NCC-73515]

Minor and major spoilers

 

[Noname Given]

So I see a trip to 31st century Boreth in Georgiou's future..

Nah - Guardian of Forever gets my vote.

(And you know the Terran Empire would already have discovered it (they seemed to have explored more of the Galaxy, even in Archer's time 100 years prior the ST: D and 110 years prior to Kirk); and sealed access to, or used it from time to time - ergo, she'd know where it is.)

 

[BillJ]

Nah - Guardian of Forever gets my vote.

(And you know the Terran Empire would already have discovered it (they seemed to have explored more of the Galaxy, even in Archer's time 100 years prior the ST: D and 110 years prior to Kirk); and sealed access to, or used it from time to time - ergo, she'd know where it is.)

Or they may have never found it. With their conquests taking them in a different direction. Space is huge.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Burnham made the old guy "acting communications officer" or some such, which doesn't make much sense if there are no communications available.

Communication with the ships? They might just be beyond the range of his equipment.

 

[Harpsichord]

Just because there are "Federation starships" doesn't mean they are still being crewed by Starfleet. For all we know this is a Live Fast and Prosper situation, or ships crewed by those "collectors who love living in the past" that Book mentioned. Either way they probably wouldn't respond to hails from a backwater comms array.

On the other hand, if these are actual "official" Federation ships, why would they give Sahil any information about the state of the Federation? He has no clearances, no security codes, for all they know this guy broke into the array last week and is trying to get info for the Orion/Andorian syndicate.

 

[jackoverfull]

Burnham made the old guy "acting communications officer" or some such, which doesn't make much sense if there are no communications available.

no communications beyond a certain range and at that moment, not necessarily no communications whatsoever or with no hope to restore some.

On the other hand, he was able to confirm that none of these ships had Discovery’s registry, so he clearly could get their own registry and, unless he can obtain those using the sensors alone (sounds unlikely to me), there must be *some* communication here!

Perhaps he can receive but not send, at least at that range.

 

[Noname Given]

no communications beyond a certain range and at that moment, not necessarily no communications whatsoever or with no hope to restore some.

On the other hand, he was able to confirm that none of these ships had Discovery’s registry, so he clearly could get their own registry and, unless he can obtain those using the sensors alone (sounds unlikely to me), there must be *some* communication here!

Perhaps he can receive but not send, at least at that range.

1) They are crewed by "True Believers" like him, or Aliens, or some combo.

2) They don't know how to deactivate the ship's beacon/transponder that broadcasts its ID.

 

[Lord Garth]

I wonder if they're going to spoof "Tru Fans" with any of the "True Believers" at all?

 

[NCC-73515]

Apparently, the 2 ships within a 600 lj radius are a quarter galactic circumference apart (so more than 1200 lj), and one of them is numbered 21210... that's all we know so far

 

[jackoverfull]

Apparently, the 2 ships within a 600 lj radius are a quarter galactic circumference apart (so more than 1200 lj), and one of them is numbered 21210... that's all we know so far

thrilling: that’s a very big distance, a little less than the federation is supposed to be in the 24th century.

 

[Nyotarules]

I wonder if they're going to spoof "Tru Fans" with any of the "True Believers" at all?

Only if there are a group of beings talking about 'we are real Federation, those lot in sector 008 are not True Feds'
Burnham might faint when she finds out Earth left the UFP in 3016, after a Brex...er Exist vote
Repeat after me 'Not my Fed'