Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

[TRON JA307020]

It makes sense to have a few basic types in space, especially with limited support. I didn't say there would only be ONE type, but in the case of a super Starfleet ship, meant for combat, you could have destroyer level, ship perhaps slightly slower, or a cruiser level ship, different nacelles and then the top of the line battleship version...then you could even vary the battleship nacelles. All perform the same function at a different scale. Then you'd have a support vessel hull, for cargo, towing , etc. This is almost exactly like the Franz Joseph tech manual, which basically interchanged the same parts for each ship.

Are you saying this is an ugly ship? This particular version with the rounder nacelles is my favorite, and it's definitely not ugly.

something about the look looks like a step backwards. It looks more like the nx class. I would have expected something sleeker and smoother with all the advancements.

 

[fireproof78]

Smoother doesn't equal more advanced. Capability equals more advanced.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Smoother doesn't equal more advanced. Capability equals more advanced.

No but you would think design aesthics would get less bulky with better and more advanced materials. . Materials should be advancing along with the tech itself.

 

[fireproof78]

No but you would think design aesthics would get less bulky with better and more advanced materials. . Materials should be advancing along with the tech itself.

I would not expect that at all. Material advancement doesn't automatically mean smoother aesthetic. Smoother aesthetic does not mean more advanced.

 

[Timo]

By this definition, NX-01, her contemporaries and all others like her were likely considered spaceships (or spacecraft, as the plaque would indicate).

How so? Archer's ship would have been the biggest and baddest for her day, and thus certainly deserving of the Staaaaarship designation. And every alien ship they stumbled on, including Tellarite bounty hunter skiffs, would be a starship, too, relatively speaking.

The UE Starfleet might well have had ships unworthy of the name starship, and we may even have seen a few. It's just that there was no dialogue there that would have revealed the terminology used.

You can't read it clearly, so it really doesn't count, but the dedication plaque on the DSC Set also says Starship Class, so it seems to be both. (there's also an unreadble screen in TOS that also says constitution class)

Well, the TOS screen doesn't directly refer to Kirk's ship as such (although it would be nice if it referred to his ship's previous incarnation!). In DSC in turn, the graphics associated with Pike's arrival show the name Constitution, along with the fan specs that specify a low mass of 170,000 tons and the short loa of 288 meters that go especially poorly with the ship we actually see...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[137th Gebirg]

It's possible the "starship" nomenclature didn't even exist as a categorical distinction in Archer's time, particularly if the dedication plaque called it a "spacecraft" which is a much older 20th century term, probably used out of NASA/UESPA tradition. Was the word ever mentioned during the ENT series run in any Starfleet context? It's been so long, I honestly can't remember.

 

[cooleddie74]

Archer told the Xyrillians or one of the early Season 1 alien races that they were "the Earth vessel Enterprise" so there were times the series didn't refer to Enterprise as a starship. "Spacecraft," though? I'm not remembering it.

 

[Dukhat]

I recall Archer saying ‘Starship Enterprise’ on more than one occasion. Which is ironic, because 100 years later Pike referred to the Enterprise as a ‘Space Vehicle’ (Hunter Pike, not Mount Pike.)

 

[fireproof78]

I recall Archer saying ‘Starship Enterprise’ on more than one occasion. Which is ironic, because 100 years later Pike referred to the Enterprise as a ‘Space Vehicle’ (Hunter Pike, not Mount Pike.)

Well, Pike also called his horse "equine vehicle" so that was just his weird phrasing

 

[137th Gebirg]

Those funny Mojave Desert people...

 

[fireproof78]

Those funny Mojave Desert people...

Well, patrolling it almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter...*





*with all due respect to Fallout: New Vegas.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Everyone still mad at the Federation fleet in PIC?


Good.

 

[fireproof78]

Everyone still mad at the Federation fleet in PIC?


Good.

Yup, it is apparently an abomination before the Lord Roddenberry.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Some things just never go away like they’re supposed to.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Some things just never go away like they’re supposed to.

Like the way they killed off James T. Kirk in ST:GEN.

 

[137th Gebirg]

He’s not dead. He’s still in the Nexus!

 

[Dukhat]

Everyone still mad at the Federation fleet in PIC?


Good.

No, just one or two outspoken people who can’t let it go (or are purposely not letting it go.)

 

[Captain Crow]

"Enterprise class" was used in ST2:TWoK,

I always thought that was referring to who the bridge simulator was assigned to, the class assigned to the Enterprise for training, rather than the ship class the simulator was based off of.

 

[Tuskin38]

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Enterprise_class

Background information on this section says it was mistake yeah.

 

[RAMA]

I don't buy 4 ships in that fleet.
Even if the nacelle are canted different directions or different nacelles entirely does not make it a new class. Example the nimitz class carrier, none are 100% alike. And for engines, many planes have options for a GE or Rolls Royce engine. Doesn't make it a different 737.
Now if one was a thru deck carrier and another wasn't then yes. But it's practically visually indistingusable from others.
Not that I hate the ship. Just saying implying other classes where they don't exist is wrong imo