Romulan War

[valkyrie013]

Comet and daedalus still look good.
Would think designs would get more simpler with rushed production of as many ships as possible, and the nd taking years to finish. Simple spheres and cylinders quick builds

 

[mattman8907]

The Romulan war has been something I wanted to see on the small or big screen for years now. I mean this is the war that caused the Four founding races of the Federation to come together and form the United Federation of Planets. I mean we saw some of that in Enterprise season four but it would've been nice to see them even more a cohesive unit.

 

[Imaus]

I think you can do "primitive atomic weapons and in primitive space vessels - Which allowed no quarter, no captives" with out looking like something from another franchise. Nothing in those designs look like something that would lead to the Connies. They look like something dropped from planes not warping through space.

But when they got the chance to do it, they obviously didn't want to. They got their hands on that era and gave us the Akiraprise and the flying wings before that. They rejected the Daedalus; we never see it on screen beyond some model hundreds of years later. I'll take the flying ww2 bombs any day compared to what we got.

 

[Nerys Myk]

But when they got the chance to do it, they obviously didn't want to. They got their hands on that era and gave us the Akiraprise and the flying wings before that. They rejected the Daedalus; we never see it on screen beyond some model hundreds of years later. I'll take the flying ww2 bombs any day compared to what we got.

Hate the "daedalus" design, one of the worst in the franchise. It was rejected for a reason. So that was good call in my book. Love the NX-01design, especially the nods to the Connies.

 

[fireproof78]

Hate the "daedalus" design, one of the worst in the franchise. It was rejected for a reason. So that was good call in my book. Love the NX-01design, especially the nods to the Connies.

Same here. Daedalus was an oddity best ignored. The NX 01 is not my favorite design but it tracked well with the Phoenix from First Contact.

 

[mattman8907]

Same here. Daedalus was an oddity best ignored. The NX 01 is not my favorite design but it tracked well with the Phoenix from First Contact.

the new constitution model and bridge from Discovery looks like its a descendant of the NX-01 class.

 

[FederationHistorian]

It would have to be done very differently, not just from the Dominion War, but the Federation-Klingon War from DSC. They were both very total warfare and galactic conquest. The Romulan War should be more defensive for both parties involved. And more submarine warfare. PTSD could be more frequently seen too, compared to past series when dealing with war.

I think there is a very unique opportunity to tell the story from multiple perspectives of minor or semi-major characters, instead of the traditional cast of main characters that goes for several seasons. And tell the story of the war from a multitude of varying perspectives.

I’ve love a middle decks perspective on an NX-class ship, or a Daedalus-class ship.

I’ve love a MACO perspective.

I’d love to see perspectives from different United Earth departments (Earth Cargo Authority, UESPA, Diplomatic Corps, Stellar Navy).

I’d love a United Earth political perspective.

I’d love to see a perspective from some random individual living day to day on Earth, or one of the other founding member worlds of the Federation. Or even a neutral party like Denobula.

I’d love to see perspective from colonists on Alpha Centauri and Vega colony.

I’d love a Starfleet Intelligence/S31 perspective

I’ve love varying perspectives within the Romulan Star Empire (Senate, Navy, Tal Shiar, Remans).

I’d even love a Klingon perspective, to see how they viewed the conflict as complete outsiders to it.

You could even have members of the Enterprise crew, or Columbia crew, reflect on the war decades later in a documentary-style episode. That would be quite fitting for the show’s finale.

Its all good to want to have space battles in and around Bassen Rift, Charon, Earth, Romii, etc. But we also need to be able to care about the characters too, even if they are only around for a few episodes at most. Even how they handle shore leave on Risa or Wrigley's pleasure planet in the middle of a major conflict like this could be looked at.

As for ship design in the series, I'm sure inspiration can be taken from the Ships of the Line calendar. Maybe the XCV-330, or a ship like it, gets taken out of mothballs for this particular conflict.

 

[Odo]

I think the fact that we've already seen wars portrayed in Trek will mean this will have to be different - but I'm totally fine with that! In fact, I think it will make any Romulan War portrayal better, because they'll have to be more creative (especially since the Romulans and Feds don't see each other). They'll probably get around to this someday. Honestly, the period between ENT and TOS in general has a lot of potential - any Trek period we haven't seen on screen yet has potential to be interesting and say something new.

 

[Steve Roby]

Crazy thought, I know, but not everything that was ever mentioned in an episode of Star Trek has to become its own Star Trek series.

 

[Imaus]

Crazy thought, I know, but not everything that was ever mentioned in an episode of Star Trek has to become its own Star Trek series.

But this is one of THE most major events in Star Trek. Without this, there is no Federation. While I doubt it'll ever be made, this is one of the biggest things ever in the Trek universe.

 

[fireproof78]

But this is one of THE most major events in Star Trek. Without this, there is no Federation. While I doubt it'll ever be made, this is one of the biggest things ever in the Trek universe.

Which is why it should not be made.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Crazy thought, I know, but not everything that was ever mentioned in an episode of Star Trek has to become its own Star Trek series.

Sorry I can't hear you over my 10 part series about Picard winning the academy marathon (starring Patrick Stewart, CG de-aged to 17)

 

[mattman8907]

I was actually reading about a movie and lt was going to take place during the Romulan war. Apparently one of the characters name was Tiberius chase and he was in love with admiral gardners daughter.

 

[FederationHistorian]

I was actually reading about a movie and lt was going to take place during the Romulan war. Apparently one of the characters name was Tiberius chase and he was in love with admiral gardners daughter.

Yes, it was called Star Trek: The Beginning. Where Archer and his crew were on shore leave on Risa during the Romulan attack on Earth, and Starfleet was secretly working on a Warp 8 ship. And Tiberius Chase was an ancestor of Kirk.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Yes, it was called Star Trek: The Beginning. Where Archer and his crew were on shore leave on Risa during the Romulan attack on Earth, and Starfleet was secretly working on a Warp 8 ship. And Tiberius Chase was an ancestor of Kirk.

I always thought the bit in ST'09 where they're naming Jim is a reference to that movie, which was cancelled in favour of the reboot. George Kirk's father was presumably Tiberius Chase.

While unmade movies are fascinating, the script for Star Trek: The Beginning wasn't great. Some stuff doesn't make sense, like the Romulans sending a whole fleet of ships to Earth and it going undetected because they're travelling toward Earth in the shadow of the moon. But it was only a first draft, and presumably would have been thorough many changes before ever reaching the screen.

 

[Steve Roby]

Sorry I can't hear you over my 10 part series about Picard winning the academy marathon (starring Patrick Stewart, CG de-aged to 17)

Clearly deserving the greenlight, but not until after the YA soap opera about Jim Kirk's Starfleet Academy years, with Gary Mitchell, Finnegan, Ruth, and everyone else Kirk knew at the Academy, and the touching, inspiring drama of The Boothby Chronicles, in which every week a different student with a Problem with a capital P finds a new way forward in life after a chance meeting with Boothby the Gardener -- the mysterious figure who may be something much more special than just another Starfleet Academy horticulturalist.

 

[Tenacity]

George Kirk's father was presumably Tiberius Chase

Then how did George come by the surname of Kirk?

 

[FederationHistorian]

I always thought the bit in ST'09 where they're naming Jim is a reference to that movie, which was cancelled in favour of the reboot. George Kirk's father was presumably Tiberius Chase.

While unmade movies are fascinating, the script for Star Trek: The Beginning wasn't great. Some stuff doesn't make sense, like the Romulans sending a whole fleet of ships to Earth and it going undetected because they're travelling toward Earth in the shadow of the moon. But it was only a first draft, and presumably would have been thorough many changes before ever reaching the screen.

While there are some aspect I would keep from the script, namely:

Penelope Gardner, Archer & crew on shore leave – preferably Wrigley pleasure planet to create a TOS link, the United Earth Stellar Navy, Lt Jaxx, Maori ensign Ogg, Vulcan engineer Skal, Vulcan Ambassador Skon (Spock's grandfather), Terra Prime affiliated family


There are a number of things I would scrap and change in the script:

Tiberius Chase is not a relative of Kirk. Instead he is Captain Stiles’ first officer on the starship Spartan, and is the hero (read: antihero) that Kirk’s middle name is based on. Penelope Gardner (on and off girlfriend) serves with him, as does Shran (clearly using a different alias). Rather than aspiring to join Starfleet, he resigned from Starfleet after being kicked off of Enterprise around the time of the completion of the NX-refit after the Terra Prime incident and denied serving on Columbia or the other NX ships (association with Terran isolationism is being actively rooted out in Starfleet), explaining his service in UESN, where he meets Captain Stiles.


S.S. Spartan crew

Captain: Stiles
Commander/Helmsman: Tiberius Chase
Tactical Officer: Lt. Jaxx (Tellarite)
Security Officer: Shran
Chief Engineer: Skal
Comms officer: Penelope Gardner (the role would have to be expanded beyond translations, like electronic warfare and various hacker skills)
Science officer: Ensign Ogg


There’s no warp 8 ship (ahead of the times, don’t you think?). Its the warp 7 prototype ship (codenamed Omega) that becomes known as the Daedalus class, and they steal it, much like how Kirk stole the Enterprise.

The Coalition of Planets has long fallen apart by the time of the Romulan attack on Earth.

The Romulans reverse engineered subspace vortex tech from the Xindi, which is why Earth did not detect them coming. And make clear there is a distinction between the BoPs featured in ENT, and the BoPs with the signature bird on their hulls.

And they aren’t bringing the war to the Romulans doorsteps for the first time, having had a few battles in the Bassen Rift before. But the mission that they are on changes the course of the war, due to the usage atomic weaponry the Spartan is carrying by default.

I’d also try and weave the story of the Stiles family into the film, and Chase abandoning his Terran isolationist views over the course of the film.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Then how did George come by the surname of Kirk?

Presumably he changes his name to escape the Chase infamy, his father being part of a Terra Prime-like faction stashing nukes in the antarctic.

 

[XCV330]

I used to be fascinated by a Romulan War movie or series using the basic framework and ship ideas of @Masao Okazaki at his Starfleet Museum page, but after ENT that ship has flown . I don't think it would be handled in a way I'd want to see now, so its better if they just refer to it sometimes.

Though I also predict if star trek continues another 20 years, at some point there will be a Romulan War movie, hopefully after the franchise gets its inevitable reboot