Each episode would feature Our Heroes chasing a bad guy near the end of the episode, set to a musical number of course. And once the alien had been captured and revealed, they would tell us how they would have gotten away with it if not for those meddling musicians!
What will make it "Star Trek"?
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Each episode would feature Our Heroes chasing a bad guy near the end of the episode, set to a musical number of course. And once the alien had been captured and revealed, they would tell us how they would have gotten away with it if not for those meddling musicians!
The band defenitely needs a Vulcan who plays the tambourine. That's just a requirement.
And an Andorian who plays the electronic keyboard.
Kirk/Enterprise was a good relationship, albeit one-sided.
Hmm I don’t know about that - wasn’t there an episode where she talked to him in a massively naughty voice? (Much to his embarrassment IIRC.)
Or, instead of painting everyone who dislikes Kurtzman's Star Trek with the same character assassinating brush (while passive aggressively insulting almost forty years of Star Trek history), you could assume that we each have our individual reasons for liking or disliking so-called modern Star Trek.
Personally, I consider Kurtzman's Discovery's stories predictable, the characters unlikable, and the optimism nearly non-exist. Lower Decks I simply don't find amusing, and again is a series that I have trouble finding the characters likable on.
I actually thought Picard had a lot of potential (I absolutely loved Dahj, I found Rios very likable, Stewart's acting was top-notch, and there were moments that really made me smile) but in the end it was terribly mishandled, in my opinion (gratuitous swearing, unnecessarily flashy and violent, a disappointing ending, etc.)
It isn't that these series are different to The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, or Enterprise (only one of which was made in the 80s, by the way, and all of which were different to one another) -- it's that I don't find its differences to be good writing, nor to encapsulate what I enjoy about Star Trek. I'm sorry if that offends you, but that's my opinion. No need to be rude about it.
Perfect summary
For me the name is enough and things like "a bright promising future" are not, and should not be a "gimme"
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And the Doctor from Voyager is the "Mean" judge.
Oh god you just know this will involve Harry and hid clarinet.
And Riker's trombone. Maybe Picard with his little flute.
And the Doctor from Voyager is the "Mean" judge.
Oh god you just know this will involve Harry and hid clarinet.
Perhaps you have just uncovered the true reason the Voyager ship 'disappeared' in the Delta Quadrant.
But to get back to the question asked in the poll:
"What is the necessary and sufficient condition for entertainment to be considered "Star Trek"?"
Well, from the fact that we are allowed to call something "star trek" if and only if the copyright owners of the "star trek" brand name allow someone to slap it on, that's a necessary and sufficient condition. In fact, it's the only condition.
Most answers in this thread seem to be geared toward the topic of what fans' opinions say what Star Trek should be, but I'd say that's answering a different question.
With the above in mind, I'd have to vote for "the name 'Star Trek' " , considering how the question currently is phrased.
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Stamets yes. Culber meh, just a secondary character who didn't resonate with me..
Or instead of movie night there would be a holographic music performance?
We can call it anything we want. And what about The Orville?
Most Star Trek show in over a decade (personal thought only).
Tedious, yes, clever, no
(as in: no attempt at 'cleverness'. This is honestly my first thought when I read the question. Even though I understand most people will read it differently).
(I must perhaps add to this that I was trained as a mathematician, so that when I read the phrase "necessary and sufficient condition' (a very common signal phrase in maths) my brain automatically shifts in 'strict interpretation' mode by acquired second nature. Call it professional deformation.)
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Well, yeah, they did. In 2001 UPN (and the world in general, really) were trying to pretend DS9 never existed. In fact, the very first promos for Enterprise which aired the night of Voyager's finale even promoted the show as "Before Kirk. Before Picard. Before Janeway." Leaving Sisko out entirely. And really, it's only been in very recent years (as in the last five or so) that DS9 really developed any kind of following outside of the devoted fans.
Don't leave out the poetry recital portion of the program, starring that android artist of the avant-garde, Data.
I'm having bad flashbacks to the Star Wars Christmas Special.
Fair enough. I admit I might be less aware of the attitude towards the show at the time. having missed most of the series in its original run, and not having a lot of friends to talk about Star Trek with at the time. I didn't manage to get back in step with (new) Star Trek until partway through Voyager.
The originator of this idea was snorting something illegal right?
I think he had a little too much LDS.
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