Opening credits question

[CorporalCaptain]

If the opening credits are canon, then here are giant letters spelling "STAR TREK" floating out there?

Exactly what I was thinking. Taking the opening credit scenes as in-continuity events is treading dangerously close to "Where's the music coming from?" and "Why are giant words appearing in space?" territory.

Most series already have titles and credits displayed inside story scenes, and not to mention of course incidental music plays during many scenes in every series. In many episodes both occur at the same time. Log entries also occur in many scenes. How must series cards and theme music (and for those series that have it, the "Space, the final frontier" narration) be any different?

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[Tuskin38]

I did ask back in August

 

[WarpFactorZ]

...Which is why it's so disturbing to learn that "Space!! The Final Front-Ear!!" is in fact an in-universe thing.

So far, we haven't learned that the theme music would be the Starfleet Anthem (and we have learned it's not the UFP one), but we can't rest assured of this never happening.

Timo Saloniemi

Was it established as the Captain's Oath in Enterprise (didn't watch), or just in STiD? If the latter, then it's because Nero changed everything!

 

[Tuskin38]

Didn't the wheel on the Ent-A have part of the opening narration on it?

 

[C.E. Evans]

Presumably this is where the Romulans got the Artifact in Picard?

That's been my take on it. Maybe the Artifact was even the Cube that fired on the Cerritos.

As far as the Romulans surviving an encounter with multiple Cube ships--if the Voyager can do it, well...stranger things have happened Maybe those Romulans borrowed the "put 'em to sleep, and they'll blow up" trick from the Enterprise.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Most series already have titles and credits displayed inside story scenes, and not to mention of course incidental music plays during many scenes in every series. In many episodes both occur at the same time. Log entries also occur in many scenes. How must series cards and theme music (and for those series that have it, the "Space, the final frontier" narration) be any different?

Our point is that these aren't things that we need to have an "in-universe" explanation for the existence of. We take it for granted that these elements are outside of the story setting.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Was it established as the Captain's Oath in Enterprise (didn't watch), or just in STiD? If the latter, then it's because Nero changed everything!

In the ENT pilot, it was Zephram Cochrane's speech at the launch of the Enterprise.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Our point is that these aren't things that we need to have an "in-universe" explanation for the existence of. We take it for granted that these elements are outside of the story setting.

Oh, OK. I must have misunderstood. My point was that the opening and closing themes don't strike me as more peculiar than the scenes with credits inside the episodes themselves. All have "letters" that we take for granted as being outside the story telling, as you put it.

 

[matthunter]

Remember this is post Voyager, so some of their tips/tricks for fighting Borg have made it back to Starfleet, who probably are nice enough to share them with other races that might be under threat of assimilation. Probably not the future tech Admiral Janeway gave them like transphasic torps, but enough to go from "40 ships can't beat one cube" at Wolf 359 to "fleet of ships with Picard's inside knowledge can beat a single cube" at the Battle of Sector 001 to "fleet of ships can now hold off/inflict heavy damage on small group of Borg cubes" at wherever the Rommies are in the LD credits.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

In the ENT pilot, it was Zephram Cochrane's speech at the launch of the Enterprise.

Oh, OK. I did actually watch the episode when it premiered... but I guess (checks calendar) that was 19 years ago!

 

[Timo]

Remember this is post Voyager, so some of their tips/tricks for fighting Borg have made it back to Starfleet, who probably are nice enough to share them with other races that might be under threat of assimilation. Probably not the future tech Admiral Janeway gave them like transphasic torps, but enough to go from "40 ships can't beat one cube" at Wolf 359 to "fleet of ships with Picard's inside knowledge can beat a single cube" at the Battle of Sector 001 to "fleet of ships can now hold off/inflict heavy damage on small group of Borg cubes" at wherever the Rommies are in the LD credits.

OTOH, what reason do we have for thinking that the Romulans would have won that one? Quite possibly the Cubes just cut the Warbirds to pieces Colonel Sanders would be happy to put in a package, and then completed whatever task they were involved in, such as assimilating a Romulan star system. This isn't a major event as such, since Picard in ST:FC suggests it happens all the time to the Federation, too.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Tuskin38]

Also don't forget 'To boldly go where no one has gone before.' is the quote on most of the Enterprise ship plaques. It's also on the ship's wheel on the Enterprise-A.

 

[Vger23]

Was there a “real” canon situation where the Enterprise wooshed past the exact same spot in space 3 times within seconds of each other, each time at different angles?

Did the Enterprise D really go to warp out past Saturn, then whoosh past the exact same spot in space 3 times within seconds of each other, each time at different angles in the exact same way the original ship did 79 years earlier? Then fly past and go to warp yet again?







Looks like it’s time to start drinking already.

 

[Trekker4747]

Was there really a point in DS9 when all three runabouts and the Defiant all left the station during a high incoming traffic volume day?

 

[Charles Phipps]

Multiple Borg Cubes attacking in the BQ seems like an event there's no surviving.

Well, much like the people of the Federation during its supernova and refugee crisis, I feel like we can all agree here, "Screw the Romulans."

I feel that the Borg fighting the Romulans is the LEAST weird thing to question, though.

 

[Timo]

Was there really a point in DS9 when all three runabouts and the Defiant all left the station during a high incoming traffic volume day?

Must have been one of 'em evacuations. Perhaps a big honking comet was going to smash onto the station or something?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Tim Thomason]

Must have been one of 'em evacuations. Perhaps a big honking comet was going to smash onto the station or something?

Timo Saloniemi

The problem is: that comet came by every week, even when the Dominion took over (kudos to them allowing Sisko and company to help with the evacuations). It's interesting that they never addressed the constant comet barrage during the episodes proper, but I guess they just got used to it.

 

[Charles Phipps]

The problem is: that comet came by every week, even when the Dominion took over (kudos to them allowing Sisko and company to help with the evacuations). It's interesting that they never addressed the constant comet barrage during the episodes proper, but I guess they just got used to it.

There actually is an asteroid belt right by Bajor.

 

[jackoverfull]

So...Voyager actually encountered a cute mini solar system? I want to see that episode, I feel robbed now!

 

[Timo]

The problem is: that comet came by every week, even when the Dominion took over (kudos to them allowing Sisko and company to help with the evacuations). It's interesting that they never addressed the constant comet barrage during the episodes proper, but I guess they just got used to it.

Oh, that was just the "last time on Star Trek" bit, recursively becoming "before last time", "before before last time" and so forth until the announcer's voice gave out and was omitted...

(On the theme of taking the opening credits seriously, the DS9 montage apparently covers a number of separate moments, so that even the Defiant launch is in fact at least two separate days - one during which there's a repair crew there up on the pylon, another where there isn't.)

Timo Saloniemi