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Serveaux said:
Yeah, bullshit.

They had choices.
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Replicators can't make alcohol because it's unhealthy, unless you have a cheat code.

I assume the Picards are all drunks because they are french, and since they "own" a vineyard, that doesn't matter too much, but because they are French half the food they eat for dinner is cooked with wine, which is not replicatable.
 
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Now I'm remembering that scene in "Up the Long Ladder"... now THAT'S what I call a wee drop of the creature!
 
CorporalClegg said:
Because quoting the second most racist episode of TNG is always a good look.
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It is? I mean I know it has stereotypes but the Irish are not shown to be bad people. The main guy actually seems like someone who would be fun to hang out with.


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I guess it depends. All I know is he seems like someone that would be fun to meet and hang out with as a friend. I think it actually might be more sexist than anything. They make his daughter a unlikeable hard ass who calls the others lazy. They should have allowed her to be more fun and outgoing like the others. Granted the episode itself isn't super great or anything and while it's not super progressive it also doesn't feel racist either. Just a little cheesy and somewhat fun because the guest star was kind of fun and the clones were a neat idea and they had the guts to make a bold abortion stand though maybe to bold because killing a clone I think would count as murder in most places.


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Awesome Possum said:
I really don't care why it happens, but it happens. It actually seems to have something to do with fetal development. All human fetuses start as female until exposed to testosterone in the womb and there are two exposures, one that affects brain development and one that affects the rest of the body. Causing their brain to not match their body which has been backed up by MRI scans of trans people.
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Complete androgen insensitivity is also fascinating: A genetic male forms androgens, but they aren't recognized by the receptors, so they can't act - and a morphologically female body develops
 
NCC-73515 said:
Complete androgen insensitivity is also fascinating: A genetic male forms androgens, but they aren't recognized by the receptors, so they can't act - and a morphologically female body develops
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The human body is weird, the notion that humans only have two sexes is a huge misunderstanding of biology.
 
Guy Gardener said:
This stumped me too.

Dreamer, the trans character on Supergirl made several continuous comments about having children, and in a thousand years she had a legacy character named Deam Girl who was her great great... ...great grand daughter.

Before reassignment surgery, if she's even reassigned yet, or thinks that reassignment surgery is necessary, or she can afford reassignment surgery, vaginas are very expensive (I think that's a joke from will and grace) she's left alone for a while and told to fill a large bucket with baby batter, which is then stored at a sperm bank until needed.
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She's half alien: you could chalk it up to different biology or advanced tech. Also, is it specifically said that she's Dream Girls great great... ...great grand Mother and not great great... ...great grand aunt? She does have a sister (who I'd like to see in an episode again to follow up on their fight, but that's a whole other topic).

Guy Gardener said:
Fairhaven.
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What does that have to do with good characters?
 
Phily B said:
I hope their characters have more to them than being the one dimensional token character because I can't be bothered saying they're shitty characters and it devolving into whether that is transphobic.
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I am worried about this as well. Frankly the only way I see this working is if they bring in Trans writers to ACTUALLY REPRESENT.
 
dupersuper said:
She's half alien: you could chalk it up to different biology or advanced tech. Also, is it specifically said that she's Dream Girls great great... ...great grand Mother and not great great... ...great grand aunt? She does have a sister (who I'd like to see in an episode again to follow up on their fight, but that's a whole other topic).
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Having 12 conflicting answers to the same problem, is the same as having no answer.

My real issue is that I believe that 99 percent of all the babies in the universe ever born were an accident.

Actually deciding to have a baby when you don't have to, is something only crazy people do.
 
Isaac Lawrence said:
That is so weird to me that Star Trek has never had a non-binary character before. Or transgender for that matter... Both of which seem like something they would have easily thought of even back in the sixties. Although, I guess we didn't get the first black lead until 1993, and the first black female lead until 2017, so... So everything in it's time, I suppose.
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I am scrolling from the start, so I apologize in advance if this has been brought up. Now when talking about LGBTQ+ characters we need to be a little more specific. TECHNICALLY there have been several LGBTQ+ characters in the TNG trio. However they were ALL one episode only tertiary characters. That is with exception of course of the Dax character, which on several occasions had to deal with not just the host change, but more directly the gender change of the host. This actually can speak to many trans.

Also Riker falling for the outcast 'gendered' minority alien in a predominately 'agender' society, that had evolved from a two gender ancestor, is one that comes to mind off the top of my head as well. There are more though, however in my TNG time they were rare flashes of rainbow in the sci-fi melodramas for that time.

In fact the only truly in your face SCI-FI LGBTQ+ character of the 80s - early 90s (not fantasy shows sorry Xena, Buffy, etc.) is Susan Ivanova of Babylon 5, and that was later in the show run, to spice up the ratings more than likely was how it was sold to the execs to get the green light.
 
Season 2?

My wife blinked and missed Ivanova and Talia hooking up because it was SO DAMN SUBTLE.

"What? When did that happen?"

"We saw a teddy on a chair."

"What? That's it?"

"It was symbolic."

"I wanted to see them smash."

"In the 90s, that was all they were allowed to do."

"The 90s are stupid."
 
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