It’s an accurate term. Member “Justice”? Only long term fans will get that. New fans might not get it so old fans can feel important in remembering it. Member this? Member that?
Clearly the creator is a huge fan because of all these references.
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x06 - "Terminal Provocations"
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Clearly the creator is a huge fan because of all these references.
That is a unique read on it. Did you ever think it might just make people smile to see things they have fond memories of?
Star Trek has always referenced things from past episodes not everybody's seen. "The Deadly Years(TOS)" referenced corbomite, "Whom Gods Destroy(TOS)" referenced Zefram Cochrane and "That Which Survives(TOS)" referenced the Horta, and keep in mind these episodes aired in the late 1960s. No VCRs. No YouTube. No Internet files of episode footage to share and analyze. No online message boards to remind people of previous adventures and microanalyze every plot. Even in TOS the creators threw in references not everyone would get, and this was for a series that wasn't exactly burning up the Nielsen ratings in an era of three broadcast networks.
I think the thing that has amazed me about the show is the amount of references they can get in there without the references being the story.
I don’t think people are getting the distinction.
You like one but not the other is the only distinction I’m seeing. The show isn’t to your taste, which is completely fair. Though I think you’re wrong in the assertion that it is laughing at Star Trek.
Of course that’s all you’re seeing. The meta references in Lower Decks are different from the references in other shows. Very different.
Yes. They're funny and like Joss Whedon's shows.
LD is a very different show. It's not traditional Trek outside the surface affectations and paint job. It takes TNG and its premise and just turns it on its head. It shows us what those ships were probably like when the camera wasn't focused on Picard philosophizing, Riker grandstanding or Data postulating about the human condition.
Turns out Barclay was just the very tip of a deep and entertaining iceberg.
Turns out Barclay was just the very tip of a deep and entertaining iceberg.
I never did like Barclay.
A lot of people don't like broccoli. 
I tend to agree. I think that there is people (as usual) who like some Trek and don't like others. And that's OK. But, I don't see a huge distinction between references in one show, vs. the other-just perception of personal enjoyment.
These references are just more numerous and on-the-nose. In-story there's no difference between Boimler mentioning Trip Tucker and Sulu referencing the Horta. save for one being framed in comedy and the other in a grim situation where lead characters don't know if they're going to survive.
As odd as this sounds on a Trek forum, maybe I just hang out with a bunch of nerd who like to reference historical figures, make jokes from history, and the like. I mean, you're right, there is no in-story differences but they also don't stand out to me as being any more out of place in Star Trek world than before.
Kirk came back from the dead (briefly) in 2371. Scotty came back from the dead (hopefully for awhile) in 2369. I've suggested before that this led to a Kirk Renaissance, a period where Kirk and the "2260s" was made much more famous than in 2364 when Kirk seemed barely a figure of note.
Yes.
"Remember that one time on Star Trek..." is the basic foundation on which this entire forum (and all those like it) is built.
That's the joke.
I don't know how they could make it any more obvious.
*stares at thread*
I mean, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that there are Trekkies who do not know how to take a joke, but Jesus.
As Seth McFarlane once said about Family Guy's use of cutaway gags: "The boys at South Park are absolutely correct—those cut-aways and flashbacks have nothing to do with the story! They’re just there to be funny. That is a shallow indulgence that South Park is quite above, and for that I salute them."
This is Episode 6 of an animated series. I promise you, this episode was written at least a year ago and has been in production for months, long before there was a public reaction the writers could have used to inform their creative decisions.
Because he was betting that if Badgey had to obey the laws of the environment in which he was located, that he, as a piece of metal, would freeze to death before warm-blooded mammals would.
This is an example of an affectionate joke about the ways in which Star Trek fans become fixated upon irrelevant minutiae. The episode is holding up a gentle mirror to us fans, and saying, "Yeah, we get a little silly sometimes, don't we? Let's laugh at ourselves."
It is a sitcom. Silliness is the point.
No, it is laughing with us, and asking us to laugh at ourselves, too. Hell, the creator is one of us.
I mean, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that there are Trekkies who do not know how to take a joke, but Jesus.
As Seth McFarlane once said about Family Guy's use of cutaway gags: "The boys at South Park are absolutely correct—those cut-aways and flashbacks have nothing to do with the story! They’re just there to be funny. That is a shallow indulgence that South Park is quite above, and for that I salute them."
This is Episode 6 of an animated series. I promise you, this episode was written at least a year ago and has been in production for months, long before there was a public reaction the writers could have used to inform their creative decisions.
Because he was betting that if Badgey had to obey the laws of the environment in which he was located, that he, as a piece of metal, would freeze to death before warm-blooded mammals would.
This is an example of an affectionate joke about the ways in which Star Trek fans become fixated upon irrelevant minutiae. The episode is holding up a gentle mirror to us fans, and saying, "Yeah, we get a little silly sometimes, don't we? Let's laugh at ourselves."
It is a sitcom. Silliness is the point.
No, it is laughing with us, and asking us to laugh at ourselves, too. Hell, the creator is one of us.
I mean the last year of promo stuff has gone out of its way to show us that Mike is a hardcore fanboy and Tawny is a hardcore fangirl.*
*And I might add, how many times over the last few days in her interviews with WW did she pull a "Remember that time on Star Trek..."
*And I might add, how many times over the last few days in her interviews with WW did she pull a "Remember that time on Star Trek..."
To add to the above list, in "By Any Name", there was a reference to the events of "A Taste of Armageddon".
See, this is why I always turned Clippy off in Word. I knew that with any small glitch he would turn homicidal. But whenever I turned the program on he was there. He was always there.
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