Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x03 - "Temporal Edict"

[Trekker4747]

It also kinda felt like there was too much going on; there was Boimler doing Boimler stuff, and the Captain stressing out over the way her ship is viewed by Starfleet, and the crew suffering due to buffer time being abolished, and then Mariner and Ramson on the planet being a less comedic version of Mariner and Boimler on the planet last week, and the aliens attacking the ship.

I dunno, seemed to be about as much going on as there was in the first episode where we had the zombie apocalypse on the ship, the Boimler and Mariner on the planet with the spider, Rutherford on his date, Tendri in sickbay and learning about the ship, the senior staff dealing with the outbreak, this episode was no more loaded than the first one was.

 

[Charles Phipps]

I feel like poor Mariner thinks she's in Firefly not Star Trek. If she ever gets out of Starfleet, she'll be a pirate queen and we'll lose the Neutral Zone.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

According to Jessie Gende, the school class at the end of the show in the distant future - included a little Borgling. Gotta watch it again to take a look.

 

[Charles Phipps]

According to Jessie Gende, the school class at the end of the show in the distant future - included a little Borgling. Gotta watch it again to take a look.

It also had multiple Ferengi.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The idea O'Brien was the most important person in Starfleet history got a laugh out of me. I also loved that a Borg was among the children! Another fun episode. I'm liking it more and more as I get to know the characters.

Of course I'm speculating from Youtube bloggers or something. Haven't seen it.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Maybe some of history was lost between now and then.

Undoubtedly. Discovery will probably show that to be the case, even though time travelers should tend to fix that issue. Really, it's a school for teaching and history is more about its interpretation than straight-up facts. Even if they know everything about Boimler and O'Brien, one could interpret details painting them in different lights if it helps convey an understanding.

The teacher was incorrect in her assessment of Boimler, but he was instrumental in the promotion of the Boimler Effect (which is apparently looked upon favorably) even if he failed to live up to that ideal. Everything that happens after this episode, even if Boimler becomes a valiant Admiral perishing in the Undine War, pales in comparison to the lesson of that day.

O'Brien is "perhaps the most important figure" for some other reason, and the star study object. Likely they know, or rather, actively study far more of O'Brien's history to determine and solidify this fact. This could even be related to the fact that O'Brien (and Worf) is a solid, ongoing link to Sisko and Picard, the prime leaders in the fights against the Dominion and the Borg.

 

[Tim Thomason]

According to Jessie Gende, the school class at the end of the show in the distant future - included a little Borgling. Gotta watch it again to take a look.

It had two Ferengi, one Borg, one Caitian, and two humans (probably). I caught that all on my first watch.

I'm not sure if the blonde teacher with a jewel on her head is supposed to be just a future human or some alien known for wearing forehead jewelry.

 

[thribs]

Probably an XB

 

[Q2UnME]

The Kirk-Fu and the Great Bird gag got a chuckle. The ADHD frenzy is irritating. 6/10

 

[137th Gebirg]

Again, as with the prior two episodes, I completely relate to the members of this crew. I’ve lost count of how many managers I’ve had over the years who were driven by pure ego (and little skill), grinding us through a Baton Death March project to earn attaboyz points for them and never the people who did the actual work. The Captain’s bruised ego for being jilted at the Cardassian peace summit, pushing her to drive her crew into the ground, almost gave me flashbacks. This may very well be the most realistic Trek series ever created!

 

[cooleddie74]

"The Cardassians are creeping everybody out!"

I wonder if that's a reference to the planet still being a wrecked world less than five full years after the end of the Dominion War. 800 million were killed just in the Dominion withdrawal so I could see a traumatized former enemy like the Cardassians "creeping" out Starfleet crews.

 

[Charles Phipps]

"The Cardassians are creeping everybody out!"

I wonder if that's a reference to the planet still being a wrecked world less than five full years after the end of the Dominion War. 800 million were killed just in the Dominion withdrawal so I could see a traumatized former enemy like the Cardassians "creeping" out Starfleet crews.

Beforehand they were Space Nazis.

So it's not like they were humanoid tribbles to begin with.

 

[tomalak301]

I hope we do get to see some of the Dominion War aftermath. If this series takes place a little after Nemesis, getting an update on the Cardassians would be pretty cool. Heck, I think the far future scene would have been even better if they had included some Jem'Hadar.

 

[cooleddie74]

Andrew G. Robinson as a guest star voicing Garak. There. I said it.

 

[Lord Garth]

I haven't had time to put this one on yet. Something I'm about to remedy.

 

[Lord Garth]

Buffer Time!

Sorry for the double-post.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Beforehand they were Space Nazis.

So it's not like they were humanoid tribbles to begin with.

I imagine the peace negotiations (just hosted by the 'reformed' Cardassians) were beginning to be a bit "Beijing 2008" with its theatricality and attempts at convincing Starfleet that they were all good guys. And, if Garak is still ruling things (almost certainly from behind-the-scenes with a puppet leader), maybe he thought the negotiations were ill-placed, and had a secret plan to creep out the Federation into hosting the event elsewhere.

 

[NCC-73515]

Edit: Though I did appreciate some of the smaller bits like the Gorn fight music (I think that's what it is?) playing during the arena fight

Even better was the BOBW music!

It would be funny if in Disco S3, somewhere in the background, a group of people looks at statues of Boimler and Miles, and someone mentions that's the weird secluded Starfleet cult from the woods.
Book asked Burnham if she believes in ghosts cause she wears the badge...

 

[Charles Phipps]

I imagine the peace negotiations (just hosted by the 'reformed' Cardassians) were beginning to be a bit "Beijing 2008" with its theatricality and attempts at convincing Starfleet that they were all good guys. And, if Garak is still ruling things (almost certainly from behind-the-scenes with a puppet leader), maybe he thought the negotiations were ill-placed, and had a secret plan to creep out the Federation into hosting the event elsewhere.

Given the tone of the show I predict the reason for the relocation was two-fold:

1. Negotiations on a planet still recovering from being blasted to oblivion 5 years ago is bound to be depressing and everyone would prefer nice peaceful Vulcan.

2. They realized that Captain Freeman was heading there and moved the conference ENTIRELY to avoid her ruining it by her caustic personality.

 

[Lord Garth]

So, at the end, I wouldn't read too much into the Far Future.

And that First Officer, he's pretty much the stereotypical asshole Assistant Manager at some store.