Worst lines of dialogue in Trek?

[hbquikcomjamesl]

While I will note that the "fucking cool" bit struck me as being extremely out-of-character with regard to my initial "Tilly-as-ingenue" impressions, I will also note that there is such a thing as "Army Creole" (a term I understand to have been popularized by Tom Wolfe), a dialect that very specifically originated in military circles, in which "fuck" and all its inflections are reduced to a meaningless intensifier.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

While I will note that the "fucking cool" bit struck me as being extremely out-of-character with regard to my initial "Tilly-as-ingenue" impressions, I will also note that there is such a thing as "Army Creole" (a term I understand to have been popularized by Tom Wolfe), a dialect that very specifically originated in military circles, in which "fuck" and all its inflections are reduced to a meaningless intensifier.

Wher I come from the words "fuckin" or "feckin" are constantly dropped randomly into sentences for no real reason at all and we just feckin do it for the sake of it without realising.

My issue with the Maths quote is it sounds like Tilly is boasting it as if the people around her were sceptical about maths which is ridiculous. Or more likely it was aimed at the camera for all the anti-expert flat earthers who are probably never gonna watch the show anymay

 

[1001001]

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Wher I come from the words "fuckin" or "feckin" are constantly dropped randomly into sentences for no real reason at all and we just feckin do it for the sake of it without realising.

My issue with the Maths quote is it sounds like Tilly is boasting it as if the people around her were sceptical about maths which is ridiculous. Or more likely it was aimed at the camera for all the anti-expert flat earthers who are probably never gonna watch the show anymay

I don't think it's 'aimed' at anyone in the way you're imagining it. It's just heightened enthusiasm and preaching to the choir. Some people do that.

 

[BlueStuff]

Even in jest, it would be extremely cheesy, and it wasn't in jest. But anyway, it's not dialogue alone. DSC is badly written overall.

Try to stay on topic, please.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

I don't think it's 'aimed' at anyone in the way you're imagining it. It's just heightened enthusiasm and preaching to the choir. Some people do that.

Maybe. Its just how it felt to me.
People arent exactly helping the Tilly cause either by bringing up that ludicrously unbelievable evil captain Tilly

 

[1001001]

People arent exactly helping the Tilly cause either by bringing up that ludicrously unbelievable evil captain Tilly

That's Captain Killy, to you.

 

[Jeyl]

KIRK: Captain's log. Using the lightspeed breakaway factor, the Enterprise has moved back through time to the twentieth century. We are now in extended orbit around Earth, using our ship's deflector shields to remain unobserved. Our mission, historical research. We are monitoring Earth communications to find out how our planet survived desperate problems in the year 1968.
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This is the stupidest thing in the original series when it comes to dialogue.

1. It totally goes against the Enterprise's 5-year mission to 'seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before'. Going back to Earth and it's past is the exact opposite of that mission. Being sent to Earth's past is best left as an accident and not a mission.
2. The mission itself is incredibly vague and impractical (And I'm saying that with an episode that involves easy-going time travel). How are you going to monitor every line of communication on Earth and what exactly are you waiting to hear that will 'click' with your idea on how Humanity survived the 20th Century?
3. The Enterprise already has detailed records on what transpires in 1968 anyways. So what was the point?

BONUS ROUND!

KIRK: Captain's log, supplemental. Spock and I in custody. Even if we talked, they wouldn't believe us. We're powerless to stop Mister Seven or prevent the launch, or even be certain if we should. I have never felt so helpless.
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But not so helpless that you're able to record a log entry while surrounded by armed guards in a control room of said launch. I would have put this as the worst line of dialogue in Star Trek, but it has a sense of irony to it that gives the impression that Kirk knows he's only here as a backdrop to the 'backdoor pilot' that's the main focus of this episode.

 

[The Friendly Jewish Ghost]

I know a lot of people who talk similarly to Tilly, her dialogue is a lot more natural than, for example Chekov's (to me, maybe people in the 60s talked that way, I dunno, I wasn't around)
Edit: I don't mean his accent, I mean the general dialogue and his endless "X was invented in Russia!!!!" nonsense.

Chekov's exaggerated national pride -- and his claims that such-and-such was invented in Russia or that Russians did it first -- was a send-up of actual Soviet propaganda during the Cold War era, which frequently made such claims. I thought it was funny at the time, though it did get a bit tiresome and overdone.

KIRK: Captain's log, supplemental. Spock and I in custody. Even if we talked, they wouldn't believe us. We're powerless to stop Mister Seven or prevent the launch, or even be certain if we should. I have never felt so helpless.​

But not so helpless that you're able to record a log entry while surrounded by armed guards in a control room of said launch. I would have put this as the worst line of dialogue in Star Trek, but it has a sense of irony to it that gives the impression that Kirk knows he's only here as a backdrop to the 'backdoor pilot' that's the main focus of this episode.

There were other episodes in which Kirk made a "log entry" when he had no access to a tricorder or the ship's computers. It got to the point where the "Captain's Log" lost any pretense of being an actual log recording. They could just as well have called it "Captain's Expository Voiceover Bringing the Audience Up to Speed."

 

[Grendelsbayne]

1. It totally goes against the Enterprise's 5-year mission to 'seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before'. Going back to Earth and it's past is the exact opposite of that mission. Being sent to Earth's past is best left as an accident and not a mission.

That's not really the Enterprise's exclusive mission. Just count the number of episodes that don't involve deliberately seeking new life and new civilizations in any way. (It's at least a third, possibly more than half, just estimating off the top of my head.)

 

[NCC-73515]

They could have been sent because they previously managed to go to the 60s and return

 

[Mage]

My issue with the Maths quote is it sounds like Tilly is boasting it as if the people around her were sceptical about maths which is ridiculous. Or more likely it was aimed at the camera for all the anti-expert flat earthers who are probably never gonna watch the show anymay

It was an insecure young woman who is extremely smart but has always been kinda put down in her life by her mother. This was a great triumph for her, that moment. And she achieved that triumph by something she's very good at; math. So her making that boast is absolutely in character and great to her stand up for her achievement in front of her peers and superior officers. She was proud of herself, something she isn't very good at. I love that little moment for everything it stands for in terms of her character.

 

[Mytran]

They could have been sent because they previously managed to go to the 60s and return

This is precisely the reason given for sending the Enterprise in Christopher L Bennett's novel Forgotten History.

Personally, I think the alien organisation that Gary Seven worked for may have reached out to Starfleet in the 23rd Century and influenced them to initiate the mission (to complete the time loop)

 

[KennyB]

Something something gazelle.

 

[King Bob!]

Any Michael Burnham speech, Archer's gazelle speech.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

Wher I come from the words "fuckin" or "feckin" are constantly dropped randomly into sentences for no real reason at all and we just feckin do it for the sake of it without realising.

IIRC, some real Irish posters pointed out that "feckin'" may sound like "fuckin'," but is in fact not the same thing.

Now I must try and find this infamous Gazelle speech...

 

[Orphalesion]

Chekov's exaggerated national pride -- and his claims that such-and-such was invented in Russia or that Russians did it first -- was a send-up of actual Soviet propaganda during the Cold War era, which frequently made such claims.

Doesn't make his dialogue make it any less silly or cringe-worthy to me.

 

[Frightscape One]

I'm pretty sure it's from the end of "SHOCKWAVE, PART II".

 

[King Bob!]

Now I must try and find this infamous Gazelle speech...

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[Nyotarules]

^I'll take this over the script for Spock's Brain