Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x01 - "Second Contact"

[Nerys Myk]

Works with most sitcoms.

According to Jim.

 

[cooleddie74]

Which didn't even try to be funny.

 

[Crewman6]

I don't think it's dangerous to show them or give them that tech. It's more likely that something prevented them from using them on the planet, or just that the buggies might be preferable for some unseen reason. Perhaps it does have minor anti-grav, but is low-powered and intended to be inconspicuous to natives further out than the capital city.

The buggie was just one of the 500 references the episode contained. I didn't actually think that was the reason at all, that was another poster.

But that lead to a speculative conversation about the wisdom of Starfleet showing off high technology to races that don't have it, something which has never actually been address or has been an issue in the canon.

 

[NCC-73515]

Pay.

WALL!!!

ETA:

Oh, I guess not just wanted me to make an account. It's just jarring to click on a link and instantly seeing something pop up telling you to make an account.

I'm not opening the NYT or WP anymore cause they limit the number of articles you can read to a very low number. Anything that's important will be on other news sites as well anyway XD

Reference is made to the “most important person in Starfleet history,” an in-joke that will delight fans of “The Next Generation” and “Deep Space Nine.”

Worf if Mariner says it, O'Brien if Rutherford says it XD

Two women who talk to each other about something other than men? Yes. Mariner gives Tendi a tour of the ship (Boimler eventually leaves). That they eventually wind up in a all-male nude holodeck program doesn't discount the fact that she was describing various other things to Tendi beforehand.

They're talking about how detailed the holomen are XD
That was a perfect joke, cause it's subtle enough you don't need to see what they mean, and yet you instantly know what they mean.

The Galadonians seemed pretty simple. Do they have things that can fly, hover and float? But, just because we have certain things now, doesn't mean Federation anti-gravity technology is in any way related.

How do we know there wasn't accidental contact or contact by an outside race that brought the Federation into the fold (something like Organia or Capella IV)? Seems odd that shovels and hoes would be a big deal to a warp capable race.

Headcanon: First contact focuses on leaders in the industrial capitals, second contact then goes to the simpler farmers.

 

[Tim Thomason]

I'm not opening the NYT or WP anymore cause they limit the number of articles you can read to a very low number. Anything that's important will be on other news sites as well anyway XD

I don't think they do that anymore. I think they lifted all limits for the "duration of this crisis." You still get a notice to sign up, but that's easily ignored.

 

[Nyotarules]

Cirroc Lofton mentioned that the DS9 writers avoided contemporary phrases like "hey what's up man" to highlight that we're 400 years in the future

We still use the F word since the 13th century, 'hey, what's up man' might last just as long.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Also, her parents are an Admiral, and a Captain. She, herself, clearly has ability and knowledge, but appears to have rebelled against the fact that her parents are such high-ranking officers. That’s a dynamic I don’t think we’ve seen before, in a regular?

we got a little bit of that with Paris, before he became boring like the rest

 

[NCC-73515]

We still use the F word since the 13th century, 'hey what's up man' might last just as long.

So the DS9 writers were wrong?

 

[cooleddie74]

It's a fictional humanity of 130-380 years into the future. I think we can just accept they still say modern slang in the 22nd, 23rd, 24th and 25th centuries.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Yes.

 

[NCC-73515]

Some linguist needs to analyze how much vernacular lasts how long... isn't a lot of stuff from just 100 years ago terribly outdated when people use it now?

 

[cooleddie74]

Twenty-three-skidoo!!!

 

[Trekker4747]

Some linguist needs to analyze how much vernacular lasts how long... isn't a lot of stuff from just 100 years ago terribly outdated when people use it now?

Yes. Cars have "dashboards" named for the plate that protected the rider's feet/legs from flying debris/muck as horses "dashed" while pulling buckboards.

Refrigerators are called "ice boxes" named for the earliest iteration of them which was literally a large block of ice in a sealed box with a door.

 

[fireproof78]

Some linguist needs to analyze how much vernacular lasts how long... isn't a lot of stuff from just 100 years ago terribly outdated when people use it now?

We still use phrases that originated from Shakespeare (puking, vanish in to thin air, wild goose chase, among others) as well as swear words from the 13th century. "Dude" can be dated back to the late 1880s.

The idea that in 400 years language will change so much as we won't recognize it is odd to me, at best.

 

[BillJ]

The idea that in 400 years language will change so much as we won't recognize it is odd to me, at best.

I think it'll depend on what kind of social upheavals we experience between now and then. I don't particularly want Trek to try to predict that kind of stuff, that will date it faster than anything else they do.

I've been perfectly fine with Trek using current language to explain the universe they inhabit. They still "date" and the world hasn't come crashing down.

 

[Ometiklan]

Not a bad first episode...The episode was NOT funny...stop trying to be funny and concentrate on other things...But, not a bad start.

Got a little whiplash reading this comment. Not a bad start for a comedy that is not funny, and which should stop trying to be funny? So, in conclusion, not a bad start for an unfunny comedy which should no longer try to be funny?

Also, the first season is already totally in the bag, and they are already writing season 2. I think the comedy/not a comedy ship has sailed.

[Hmm, thinking of the thread conversation on phrasing, I wonder when phrases "in the bag" and "ship has sailed" originated?]

 

[omnirad]

Lower Decks seems like The Orville without the poop jokes or reference to current pop culture. At first look it seems like a fun way to play in Star Treks sand box. I rated it a 7.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Lower Decks seems like The Orville without the poop jokes or reference to current pop culture. At first look it seems like a fun way to play in Star Treks sand box. I rated it a 7.

But that's not what Lower Decks does. Orville is set in a Star Trek like universe, in a Star Trek like setting, and does comedy. Lower Decks has an outsider as insider approach, making comedy about the Star Trek universe while being respectful of it. It is observational comedy about Star Trek. It is much closer to Galaxy Quest and Trials and Tribble-ations than Orville.

 

[tomalak301]

I rewatched the episode last night, and I think the excitement of the first night got to me. I didn't find it as funny the second time around and I did find Mariner a bit annoying. I think if I were to grade the series premiere again, it might come down from a 10 to a 7. I did like the diversity in the crew though and the animation is pretty good. I'm also glad they have such a wide array of colors. I am still excited for the season but I do hope they calm down a bit with the rapid fire of everything.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I've watched it three times. I stand by my 8.