Spoilers Picard News & Reviews from Outside Sources

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by The Old Mixer, Feb 5, 2017.

  1. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    Mmmm. And I suppose Patrick Stewart doesn't get Star Trek one bit either. Or Michael Chabon who's been a fan since the '70s. Nice. How about Kristen Beyer who wrote all those novels? Nah. Can't be. Once they work on Picard, they magically don't know anything about Star Trek. The reason? They "dared" to make something you don't like.

    How dare they. So evil.
     
  2. fireproof78

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    Indeed. The guillotine is too swift. Nick Meyers would never allow such non fans to work...:shifty:
     
  3. Dukhat

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    There is someone who doesn’t get Star Trek, but it’s not anyone involved in its production.
     
  4. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    I'm of the firm belief that someone should put into their own words why they think Picard isn't Star Trek. I'm not watching a video to see someone else make an argument that the poster should be making. I don't see why I should put my own reasoning into words if they can't be bothered to. It's as if they expect us to do all the work while they do nothing but post a link. It doesn't work like that. That's not adding your own thoughts to the discussion. It's piggy-backing off someone else. If I wanted to argue with Nerdrotic, I'd argue with him directly. Over there. I'd talk to the source, not one of his proxies.

    On top of it all, this topic had died down almost two weeks ago. It's like he just popped out a link to a video just to force it back into life and then hoped we'd respond on cue. Which, unfortunately, we just did.
     
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  5. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The sad thing is that Star Trek has done what Picard has done in some way, shape, matter or form, before. It's all Star Trek, like it or not.
     
  6. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    Yeah, I've moved this line of discussion to the thread where it belongs.
     
  7. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Rumor is that Patrick Stewart is unhappy with season 2:

    “Sir Patrick does not like the idea of being dead and now a ‘golem’- this is one aspect of the series he did not sign off on. The writers are [now] scrambling to reconfigure the season into something with coherency, which is not something the show has a lot of. ”
    https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/patrick-stewart-rumored-unhappy-returning-star-trek-picard-season-2/

    What do people think? Is it plausible, true, or total BS?

    I think the source is very questionable so I would be very skeptical. But I think it is plausible that Stewart might be a bit upset with that direction to his character.
     
  8. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Looks at link address without clicking...

    BS.
     
  9. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Could be any of them, but I would wait for a more reputable site to pick up the story.
     
  10. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    They are the worst site out there...........
     
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  11. BillJ

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    Though I have to say that the character dying is a pretty big plot point for Stewart to not have known about until he got the script.

    Could be he was on board with it at the time, then realized they made a mistake doing what they did.
     
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  12. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    This website is total bullshit, don't believe anything they post.
     
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  13. Makarov

    Makarov Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Probably not true I would even go as far to recommend changing the title or merging it into the clone/resurrection thread to stop the rumor or people will be repeating it forever based on the title alone.
     
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  14. Lord Garth

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    Patrick Stewart has far more power than the average star of a series. If he wasn't happy with being a golem, he would've vetoed it, threatened to walk, and then Chabon would've tried to come up with something else to keep him onboard.

    That's the picture I'm getting of the behind-the-scenes dynamic of Picard. That comes with the territory of being at the mercy of keeping Patrick Stewart. They can't just replace him or recast him. So they have to make sure he's happy with whatever they're doing.

    Michael Chabon is good. He's adept at keeping on the same page as Patrick Stewart and getting him to see things his way. Something the makers of Insurrection and Nemesis weren't able to do. When Patrick Stewart said "Jump!," they asked "How high?" So they weren't up to the task of managing Patrick Stewart like Michael Chabon is.
     
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  15. Romulan_spy

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    I put the word "rumor" in the title. I think that is pretty clear.
     
  16. Precious Tritium

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    Hasn’t Stewart said on multiple occasions he was present in the writer’s room for the entire season? What, did they have a secret meeting without him? Did they redact all of his lines in the script until the day of shooting?

    This is exactly like those “secret plans to oust Kathleen Kennedy and save Star Wars” rumours. It’s telling certain people what they want to hear. I promise you the truth is far more boring.
     
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  17. DarthTimon

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    It's just typical fandom menace click-baiting for profit.
     
  18. Dukhat

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    There’s actually a thread for ‘rumor’ posts:

    https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/news-stories-from-dubious-sources.300649/

    And yes, this is 100% bullshit. Not only is that site completely unreliable, Stewart would never make such an unprofessional comment about his own show. People need to realize that only idiots post on 4chan.
     
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  19. Imaus

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    Even if it's true, ah well I don't really care what the actor thinks. I've gotten a real dim view of actors these days. I'm more focused on the directors. It's a job. Shut it, tuck it, do the lines, go home.
     
  20. MrPicard

    MrPicard Jean-Luc's Loving Husband Fleet Captain

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    I’m not gonna type it all out here again but I made an entire Twitter thread about this completely nonsensical “rumor” and where their 4chan sources get the basis of it from.

    Here: https://twitter.com/Mr_Picard/status/1291998225319305216?s=20

    The tl;dr version of it is: Sir Patrick said in various interviews he was surprised about the plot twist at the end of the first season (but also added he found it interesting and it made sense and he’s eager to explore what it means for Jean-Luc), which these people have now turned into “he is unhappy with the direction of the show”. Also, they’ve debunked their own narrative of “Stewart is basically co-writing the show, he has massive influence, he’s using it to destroy Picard’s legacy”. How can he have massive influence and then be “unhappy” about the plot twist? If he had massive influence shouldn’t he have known about the plot twist or even come up with it? (I’m asking rhetorical questions here, I guess. He himself has said he just sat in the writer’s room on several occasions... and mostly just listened to them coming up with ideas.)