Anyone rewatching any old shows during quarantine?

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  1. The Borgified Corpse

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    What was his political ax to grind?
     
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    From the Battlestar Wiki article on Tom Zarek:
    I can't remember if Lee quotes from Zarek's book when they're talking in "Bastille Day," but they really don't get too deeply into his beliefs other than setting him up as someone opposed to Roslin and Adama and their attempts to maintain some semblance of the pre-Fall status quo.
     
  3. The Borgified Corpse

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    That's often one of my pet peeves when it comes to stories about political disputes, when they don't get very specific about the actual political positions of the people involved. We're just supposed to side with the protagonists because they're the protagonists. Probably the worst example of this was that Mary Queen of Scots movie a couple years ago. The movie is all about how Queen Mary is being undermined by all of these conniving men around her but they never really establish that she was a good queen or that she had good ideas. It seemed like her biggest idea was bringing the Catholic Church back, which was probably not a good plan in 16th century Scotland. (Certainly crazy-beard David Tennant didn't seem to care for it. ;) )
     
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    Oh Airwolf...... Now that's an old show. But it gets a bit old when you know the act structure. I used to have season 1 and 2 of that and watched it the year before last.
     
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    I guess I tend to overlook the nebulous politics because I enjoyed the show so much, but yeah, for a president who's supposedly trying to uphold democratic ideals, she really doesn't act like it — she pushes for Baltar to become VP so that Zarek won't, then she tries to rig the election against Baltar, plus there's a ton of times where either she, Adama, or both of them act unilaterally. And then there's that time Tigh declared martial law, wasn't that fun?

    But let's face it: Zarek's not much better; his only achievement during the very brief period of time when he's president (after the exodus from New Caprica) is setting up a secret tribunal to execute collaborators.
    Now there's one that's bittersweet to revisit; fun, if a bit hokey (aren't most '80s action-adventure shows?), and it's fun to play "spot the stock footage," but mostly it's kind of sad because Jan-Michael Vincent was a reasonably talented actor and just pissed it all away.
     
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  6. The Borgified Corpse

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    No, Zarek wasn't any better. But he was more honest about it. I can't stand Roslin's hypocrisy. If you want to be the democratic leader, you have to be democratically elected. And if democracy isn't practical--and I think you can make a case that, in this extreme situation, it isn't--set up a military dictatorship. But be honest that you're setting up a military dictatorship. Don't set up a democratic facade but then undermine it behind the scenes whenever the voters make a decision that you don't like.

    I also couldn't stand Roslin's two-facedness. When she very gently convinced Helo & Sharon to put down their guns, then immediately ordered them to throw Sharon out an airlock, that's when I knew that I could never like or trust this person, even a little.
     
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    And that's pretty much why I disliked her from that point onwards.... She wasn't a hidden Cylon but she should have been spaced. I just couldn't get behind her in the show after this point.

    Yeah I think it was booze and drugs or something and he just tanked his career in the 80s. He was a good actor and had done many movies but yeah threw that all away.

    It's quite hokey but then when you had other shows of the same era like Knight Rider and Streethawk with their fancy vehicles a mach 1 helicopter isn't a bridge too far... It was fun but after a while the formula did get old.
     
  8. Guy Gardener

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    No.

    There's stuff in there, but it's cotton-balled down with a shit load of angst and pause.

    It's a slow road to no where.

    Janeway's girl gave up after 5 episodes.
     
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    Well I was given the set so it was free I can't really complain about it too much I'll give it a try sometime. Interesting, there's a warning on the cover "MA 15+ Strong violence and themes"
     
  10. Guy Gardener

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    There are boobs for 20 seconds in the pilot.

    They keep talking about group sex moving forward from there but never follow through, and show us.

    You can put it away in a weekend if your loved ones know what is good for them.

    No one remembers, and no one cares.
     
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    Ah so Caprica is that good hey, that no one recalls it? Must be a real winner.
     
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    @teacake went on about Polly Walker from Rome.

    You might as well just watch Rome if you haven't seen that.

     
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    Actually I went on about Polly Walker from Caprica. And just writing this makes me want to rewatch that lumpy series with Polly Walker moments.

    As to Rome.. I'm averse to just about anything historical on tv. BUT. That does look kind of cool. Like a better GoT. How much Polly Walker is in it?
     
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    Been a while since I've watched it but she's a big player in season 1 and her first appearance is umm different from the norm.

    Never seemed to have gotten around to watching the second season.
     
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    I really really really fancied her.

    ROME here I come.
     
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    enjoy :)

    Another thing for the series - while it does get a tad gory at times, it's not the not blood soaked gore that seems to have become prevalent (thanks GoT).
     
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    The sexual violence on GoT was the worst.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    All of her.

    A few nude scenes.
     
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    IS HTIS ON NETFLIX
     
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