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Uplifting sci-fi that isn't Star Trek

I liked them too, though Fisher Stevens's character has aged really, really badly.

Yeah, I think I rewatched them a couple of years ago, and it struck me just how bad his character and his accent was. Though to be fair, I think a lot of it from that era is true as well. Lots of racial insensitivity in a lot of things from the 80's.

I'd love to see a 3rd movie someday. Perhaps a new bunch of characters find Johnny 5 in a junkyard and try to get him running again. The closest we got to that was Chappie, which I feel tried to capture the same charm. I know critics were hard on it, but I thought it was quite a fun movie, flaws and all.
 
Yeah, I think I rewatched them a couple of years ago, and it struck me just how bad his character and his accent was. Though to be fair, I think a lot of it from that era is true as well. Lots of racial insensitivity in a lot of things from the 80's.

I think Short Circuit was the first time I ever came across that stereotype of an Indian accent. I didn't even know at first what nationality he was supposed to be.
 
I think Short Circuit was the first time I ever came across that stereotype of an Indian accent. I didn't even know at first what nationality he was supposed to be.

Growing up, I didn't really question it, but it's now that I'm viewing it through older eyes that I realize how much of a stereotype it was. I think the best example I can think of that's somewhat similar is Apu on the Simpsons. There was also a short-lived locally produced Canadian cartoon series, that in retrospect, had a quite terrible Indian accent in it, the whole thing being a stereotype within a stereotype given that it was a Canadian Mountie, and again, similar exagerrated accent. Well, I'm getting off-track. Didn't mean to hijack.
 
The main thing I remember about seeing Short Circuit 2 (I've still not seen the first one) as a kid was the scene where Johnny 5 gets smashed up by the bad guys. As an 8-year-old, that was really sad.
 
You chose one of the creepiest stories from Tom Baker's first season. Ian Marter (Harry) later became one of the authors who novelized some of the Classic Who stories for Target. "Ark in Space" was one he did - an excellent job, as he would have known more about it than any of the other Target authors. His skills at describing the creepier elements of this story were so... descriptive... that I nearly lost my supper (was reading it in the cafeteria at the local college, shortly before my evening anthropology class).

The first-season Baker stories had some really good scenes like this one, when the Doctor has philosophical moments. His best one, though, was in "Genesis of the Daleks" when he hesitates to kill the embryo Daleks. From his point of view, he's seen centuries of death and destruction due to that species, but from the Daleks' point of view, they don't (quite) exist yet. It's the classic conundrum of "do you kill a child who history says will grow up to commit genocide" if there's a bare chance to prevent that from happening.


I wouldn't call The Tripods an uplifting series. There are parts of the series that deviated quite a long way from the novels, so they didn't actually finish the whole trilogy (or at least if they did, the rest of it wasn't available in Canada). It was actually pretty grim in a lot of places, but if I had to pick an uplifting theme, I'd pick friendship and sacrifice for the good of one's people.

My own movie choices would be Contact (previously mentioned upthread) and Short Circuit ("Johnny 5 is alive!" "No disassemble, no disassemble!").

TV choices: Space Island One (about an international group of researchers living and working on a space station in orbit around Earth; there's an emphasis on science and some stories go into the ethics of doing research because of profit vs. because it's beneficial).

One of my favorite episodes of the series is when one of the female researchers gets pregnant and has her baby aboard the station - the first human born off-planet. The entire group helps her through labor and delivery (there are only 7 people up there), and it's rather poignant when the mother holds her newborn daughter and shows her through the viewport what Earth looks like.

Uplifting SF literature... hm. That's really subjective. There's only one short story I know of that is capable of satisfying both religious people and atheists, and that is "The Last Question" by Isaac Asimov.
No, they didn't do season three of Tripods. The model work for season three had been done for season two, so a cut down version would have been fairly cheap, but the ratings were so bad no-one was interested.
 
I think Short Circuit was the first time I ever came across that stereotype of an Indian accent. I didn't even know at first what nationality he was supposed to be.
An odd thing is that the 'Peter Sellers comedy Indian accent' that others imitate is a very accurate reproduction of an Indian accent he heard while in the army. But as he used it in comedy...
 
The main thing I remember about seeing Short Circuit 2 (I've still not seen the first one) as a kid was the scene where Johnny 5 gets smashed up by the bad guys. As an 8-year-old, that was really sad.
You should definitely see the first one. Johnny 5 and Stephanie dancing to Travolta's disco numbers, Johnny 5 disassembling Stephanie's ex-boyfriend's prize vehicle, Johnny 5 understanding that for organic beings "disassemble means dead" and realizing that if his owners want to disassemble him he will die... and he doesn't want to die. This is a far better movie than the sequel.

No, they didn't do season three of Tripods. The model work for season three had been done for season two, so a cut down version would have been fairly cheap, but the ratings were so bad no-one was interested.
Maybe if they'd stuck to the novels instead of going off on a tangent... I don't remember the bullshit about them pretending to join the circus being in the novels.
 
You should definitely see the first one. Johnny 5 and Stephanie dancing to Travolta's disco numbers, Johnny 5 disassembling Stephanie's ex-boyfriend's prize vehicle, Johnny 5 understanding that for organic beings "disassemble means dead" and realizing that if his owners want to disassemble him he will die... and he doesn't want to die. This is a far better movie than the sequel.

That reminds me, the movie was filmed in Toronto, and there's a scene where you can see the World's Biggest Bookstore, a giveaway, which was before it was sold to Chapters, and of course that's before it ceased to exist entirely. Anytime I watch it these days, it kind of jumps out at me.
 
That reminds me, the movie was filmed in Toronto, and there's a scene where you can see the World's Biggest Bookstore, a giveaway, which was before it was sold to Chapters, and of course that's before it ceased to exist entirely. Anytime I watch it these days, it kind of jumps out at me.
And I wouldn't know the difference. It jumps out at me, though, when shows and movies are filmed in or near Vancouver. There's one particular site where it would be an insane crossover if all the characters who ever had scenes there could get together.

Mind you, I already did start a crossover fanfic between Highlander and The Crow: Stairway to Heaven.
 
And I wouldn't know the difference. It jumps out at me, though, when shows and movies are filmed in or near Vancouver. There's one particular site where it would be an insane crossover if all the characters who ever had scenes there could get together.

I know the feeling, given my area's been a haven for filming as of late. Both Carter and Cardinal were locally filmed and I could spot something recognizable in almost every scene.
 
If we are talking movies let me suggest Explorers and Flight of the Navigatior.

For the past couple of days I've been considering watching The Black Hole.
 
Fisher Stevens' character was the comic sidekick and was never meant to be taken seriously. That's the only rationale I can come up with for the racial/cultural stereotyping that was part of the character.

That said, I still like the line, "I am standing here beside myself!" (to express surprise).

That and also likely they just wanted to hire Fisher Stevens. I suspect many of these cases are about people wanting a certain actor above any other issues.

Jason
 
I guess it's more fantasy than Sci-Fi but "Defending Your Life" which is that Albert Brooks and Meryl Streep movie about a Heaven waiting place to be uplifting. Also The Martian starring Matt Damon.


Jason
 
And I wouldn't know the difference. It jumps out at me, though, when shows and movies are filmed in or near Vancouver. There's one particular site where it would be an insane crossover if all the characters who ever had scenes there could get together.

Mind you, I already did start a crossover fanfic between Highlander and The Crow: Stairway to Heaven.

Now that I've moved to BC and have been to Vancouver a few times, I can't watch an Arrowverse show without recognizing locations where it is filmed. I have the same thing watching The Order on Netflix--how many times has UBC been used in genre shows? Last year I was at a wine and cheese at the house where the werewolves HQ is located.
 
Now that I've moved to BC and have been to Vancouver a few times, I can't watch an Arrowverse show without recognizing locations where it is filmed. I have the same thing watching The Order on Netflix--how many times has UBC been used in genre shows? Last year I was at a wine and cheese at the house where the werewolves HQ is located.

That type of thing has only happened to me from the movie "In the Army Now" starring Pauly Shore. They filmed at the army base here in Oklahoma that I drove my route on for the local paper. At one point Pauly Shore and Andy Dick were literally standing in the same place I would park my car at so I could toss the paper into the waiting area.

Jason
 
It's nice to see you guys talking about Short Circuit, I loved that movie as a kid. Don't think I've ever seen the second one though. As a naïve kid, I had no idea there was any problem with Fisher Stevens' character.
 
It's nice to see you guys talking about Short Circuit, I loved that movie as a kid. Don't think I've ever seen the second one though. As a naïve kid, I had no idea there was any problem with Fisher Stevens' character.

Me either and you know I think I was so naive I don't think I even knew it was a white guy back then.

Jason
 
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