Coincidentally, I'm currently in the midst of a Superboy rewatch (and Lois & Clark is up next).
Spoilers Batwoman - Season 1
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He’ll be back.
If we do a ten year time jump, the noob could be Bruce and Catwoman's daughter... Which would screw over the rest of Arrowverse.
UNless of course, she is from the future?
UNless of course, she is from the future?
Honestly, I think I'm more interested to see season 2 now than I was going into season 1. Partly because I had some very deep reservations about both Kate Kane as a character from the comic, & Ruby Rose's ability to carry a show (the latter of which turned out to be justified.)
This new character and the actor playing her on the other hand are both entirely unknown quantities to me, so I'm very curious where it's headed.
Let's not kid ourselves though; the moment Ruby left this was always going to essentially be a reboot because a recasting would never work in the long run, and a new lead character requires *every* major character who's not getting killed off or put on a bus to get an entirely new character arc going forward AND have their relationship to the main character fundamentally altered.
This isn't a second season of a show. Not really. It's more of a spin-off/sequel series. Hopefully a better one. We'll have to wait and see, but I'm optimistic.
This new character and the actor playing her on the other hand are both entirely unknown quantities to me, so I'm very curious where it's headed.
Let's not kid ourselves though; the moment Ruby left this was always going to essentially be a reboot because a recasting would never work in the long run, and a new lead character requires *every* major character who's not getting killed off or put on a bus to get an entirely new character arc going forward AND have their relationship to the main character fundamentally altered.
This isn't a second season of a show. Not really. It's more of a spin-off/sequel series. Hopefully a better one. We'll have to wait and see, but I'm optimistic.
I will give the show a chance (and in all honesty I will watch it just to keep up with the Arrowverse even if it is bad), but I am really disappointed that the character of Kate wasn't just recast so the storylines could continue intact.
Maybe the showrunners/CW weren't exactly happy about the direction of the show, and are using Rose's departure to change course?
It's certainly possible and I am being cautiously optimistic.
I would've liked that too (I really liked the idea of Jade Tailor taking over as Kate, as she volunteered to do), but who knows? A shakeup like this can be good for a show, since having to solve problems can stimulate creativity, and having to rebuild a show nearly from the ground up can let you notice problems or opportunities you missed before. It did that for Babylon 5.
Did that happen with the Sea Quest DSV too?
Seriously. If your first thought after hearing of a minority casting is "Gee, this is a great opportunity to puff up my own ego by proclaiming I'm not racist, even though in doing so, I'll be giving trolls the attention they crave, and airing their noxious views for them!" ... maybe spare us your moment of self-glorification, and don't do that?
It's 2020. We get it: there are a-holes on the Internet. Self-serving quipping about how dumb they are isn't going to stop their trollery. Would be great if it did, but it won't.
If she's Luke's sister or cousin, that means she was raised near Bruce, and might have been in on the secret for years...
Yes, you're being irrational and knee jerky.
You keep frothing at the mouth about them resetting everything even after TPTB said they weren't. They're bringing in a new character to replace Kate not wiping everything out and starting over from square one. The remaining characters will be the same characters from season one just dealing with a new person.
Seems more like you only care that the main character's name is Kate Kane. Especially with the "just plop another actor in" attitude.
I bet if Rose's Batwoman ended up having to have a different name due to some behind the scenes legal reason you'd have thrown a hissy fit about it and declared your refusal to watch the show because of "THEY NOT USING THE RIGHT NAME!!1!!1! FAKE BATWOMAN!!11!11!".
It would end up being a different character anyway. The new actor would give their own interpretation that would different from Rose's. Which of course would lead to you lot whingeing non-stop about the new actor not playing her correctly.
To be brutally honest, having a new character instead of just plopping a new actor into the Kane role is a better idea for two major reasons. One being it opens up the casting net much wider to all ethnic groups. Which they've already taken advantage of. The second being it'll extend the show's longevity by having the Batwoman mantle passable to others. Actor wants to move on, pass the cowl and cape to somebody else
The show is called Batwoman not Kate Kane.
Someone being Batwoman is the bit the show has to maintain. Not who that person is.
How do you know?
There are shows that have swapped out leads and they've done just fine.
Childish inflexibility to not give something new a chance because it's not what you self righteously dictate it should be isn't something to be particularly proud of.
Connections between people in real life abruptly end for one reason or another. Why is it so strange for the same thing to happen in a fictional world?
I wouldn't knock someone for not being interested after the character or actor changes. Probably a lot of people would only be interested in a Bruce Wayne Batman. I know as a kid I was not happy when the Dukes became Coy and Vance or Barry Van Dyke was brought onto Airwolf. I personally think that decision shouldn't be declared objectively right or wrong but up to the viewer.
As of right now, I'm not sure if it will be better or worse with the changes but it will undoubtedly be different.
As of right now, I'm not sure if it will be better or worse with the changes but it will undoubtedly be different.
By then, I was at the age where I was happy as long as Catherine Bach was still there...
Not sure how that connects to what I wrote.
I commenting on the fact the show was built on Kate's relationships with the supporting characters. Father, sister, step sister, cousin, ex-lover and confidant. So I'm interested in seeing what relationships the new Batwoman will form with these characters.
Coincidentally, I'm currently in the midst of a Superboy rewatch (and Lois & Clark is up next).
Good series. Not perfect, but good. Although it was not officially connected to the Salkinds' movies, it felt more kinship with the films than Cannon's awful Superman IV.
Agreed. I have doubts about this series going forward; Kate was the center of that universe and removing her while keeping alll of the related elements reminds me of what was said about the transition from the Andy Griffith Show to Mayberry RFD, as the latter retained much of the supporting cast, but the main player--the focus of that world...its heart--was not there.
That could spell disaster for the 2nd best CW-DC series ever produced (after Black Lightning, of course).
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Well, do not count on that. In another thread, I mentioned tolerating Bewitched's Dick Sargent replacing Dick York, but there were many first-run viewers who resented York being replaced and never accepted Sargent as Darrin Stevens. That said, for a series as centered on / well-developed as Batwoman was regarding Kate and the relationships that were so tied to her past and present, I will not be shocked if a number of viewers bail on it for the same reasons.
I’m ... surprised by this, for a variety of reasons. But it’s a pleasant surprise.
I enjoyed Mayberry R.F.D.