No. The material shouldn’t be excised. That’s pretending it never happened. We need to remember the past, especially the warts.
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No. The material shouldn’t be excised. That’s pretending it never happened. We need to remember the past, especially the warts.
It just needs to be left alone. Let people make up their own mind. Most people will understand the context and if they don't then it's just a 80 year old movie. If they can't figure out that people acted and thought differently in the 10940's then they do today then what really can you do? No tagged on lecture at the beginning is going to change their mind. The whole thing is a pointless exercise for people who need a target to be mad at and a company more than willing to pander because it looks like good publicity. People who want it will never watch the movie. People who don't want will also likely never watch the movie. It will still just be older folks and movie buffs who watch. Every once awhile a new fan will find it but were at a point now were old classic movies are no longer really appreciated anymore for I guess the reasons why we don't watch silent movies. Casablanca, Whose Afraid of Virginia Wolf, Citizen Kane etc just doesn't reach younger audiences. I don't think they like anything created before the 90's.
Jason
I never heard of what happened in Tulsa until everyone started talking about it after Watchment dealt with it.
This brings up on the things that always bugged me about the way my schools taught his history. In world history we'd start with Ancient Greece and Rome, and maybe a tiny, tiny bit on Ancient Egypt, then jump to WWII, and then touch on more recent events. In American history we'd cover the Colonial and revolution and early days of the country, then jump to the Civil War, and a then go very briefly over everything that has happened between then and today, like that there was a great depression, and a space race and things like that. Most of that stuff we just barely touched on in just a few days before we jumped to the next event.
I never really learned about WWI, so what little I do know comes from a History Channel series about the World Wars, and a little bit of Wikipedia research before the Wonder Woman movie came out.
I've had to spend a lot of time building up what little knowledge I do have about other parts of history by watching from shows on History Channel and PBS, and looking around on Wikipedia.
History will only get harder to cover as time moves on because history keeps getting made. I was a kid in the 80's but if I was a kid today I imagine I would have to learn about stuff in the 80's and even 90's maybe up to 9/11 and the Iraq War. More and more stuff that you got to keep adding so I can see how lots of stuff fall through the cracks. Usually all the wars or major ones get covered. Not sure if much time is spent on the War of 1812. Some of the most interesting stuff though will never get covered because usually it's stuff that focused on major world making shifts or cultural changing moments. Tulsa just doesn't seem to have had the same impact that the Watts riots did or the LA riots in 1992. Maybe that is because one happened in Tulsa Oklahoma and the other two happened in LA. It's rare for anything to get touched on in the flyover states until you get to the Civil Rights Movement in the 60's and earlier stuff with Jim Crow.
I've always wondered what 80's and 90's stuff is covered. Fall of the Berlin Wall,Desert Storm, LA Riots, OJ Simpson,Clinton elected, Contract with America from the Republicans, rise of the internet.,Oklahoma City Bombing, Impeachment, I would guess be the major stuff in the 90's.
Jason
Clearly you each need to move to Vermont (or Quebec, but that’s trickier) and sign up for my history courses.
And here we are:
https://pagesix.com/2020/06/17/tv-networks-hire-pi-to-scope-stars-social-media-for-racism/
"A group of big TV networks — including CBS, MTV and VH1 — have hired famed private investigator Edward Myers to probe their own stars’ social media accounts to root out any racist comments."
https://pagesix.com/2020/06/17/tv-networks-hire-pi-to-scope-stars-social-media-for-racism/
"A group of big TV networks — including CBS, MTV and VH1 — have hired famed private investigator Edward Myers to probe their own stars’ social media accounts to root out any racist comments."
Right out of Orwell. Thought Police on the job. Wait until they simply want someone gone and they change the meaning of racist to make it happen. Soon everyone else will pick up on this idea and you know it will be used for political descent. Starts out with Gone With the Wind getting a warning and they didn't even wait a week for the next escalation.
Jason
Jason
At least they're giving them a warning, so they can go through and delete stuff themselves.
This stuff is all public, so it's not like they're going and digging through some sort of private documents or something.
They will start going though for private documents eventually because it never ends. The government can already spy on us through the Patriot Act so all you need is someone in power to do it. Plus people can hack into this stuff especially since the very people going along with this stuff is the Tech companies. They already have access to everyone's private information. This is one of the reason they always wants people's information. Did you know one of the mother's of the cops in the Atlanta shooting was just fired and this isn't even the first time this kind of thing happened were just being related to the wrong person was punished. Matt Taibbi has been doing a pretty job following what is going on and people should read what he has been saying. I think people aren't really following this story enough because you basically have search out in different places for the news because you can no longer rely on the legacy media stuff from CNN to FoxNews.
Jason
Jason, stop. It would be illegal for a private company to go into your private paperwork. It would be illegal for them to go into your home uninvited. People have done it and they have gone to jail. Actors would sue studios, etc.
If you are this worried, you should stop posting on a public board.
They don't care what people do in private, all they care about is what people are posting publicly that will make them look bad. They're just trying to find anything bad before the assholes who keep digging all this shit up to get people fired find it.
It's really not that different from the kind of background checks a lot of companies and people do when they first hire you.
It's really not that different from the kind of background checks a lot of companies and people do when they first hire you.
Well, companies have been reported asking for Facebook passwords when hiring so sometimes they do care what people do in private.
They don’t need a password to see what people post on Facebook, if what one is posting is public.
Companies should be told to fuck off if asking for a password. But that’s tough when they hold the power to hire you and you need a job.
Dude, you are getting fucking draining to read. With COVID-19, police brutality against minorities and a sagging economy, do you think you could give us a break from your doom-and-gloom?
I think it's about trying to control people because Democracy is dying. They say it's about rooting out bad people and racist and who can be against that but really it's about making us feel okay with them abusing their power and people's rights and civil liberties. The tech companies want complete control over us and have manipulated our flaws which has been America's inability to fully address centuries of racial, sexual and economic injustice and weaponize it to get people to hand over power to them instead of trusting in the Constitution to fix our problems. So people instead turn to bullies like Trump or people like BernieBro's who want to reinvent America from the ground up because they feel they have no other recourse. Only it's really just turning it over to a even more authoritarian state that doesn't even have something like the Constitution to aspire to but instead just souless tech empires who see people with no rights other than the ones they allow.
Jason
Jason
This stuff worries me but I do try and not talk about it all the time. It's just the world is so depressing these days. I think I am going to stop this time.
Jason
No, it's fucking capitalism. If you were in a position of means you'd do whatever it took to protect those means, you would even fire the guy who tweeted about cutting off breasts some years ago if you thought it would cut into your wealth and well-being.