Actually that was one of the few things that made it to multiple episodes.. Warp restrictions.. Was kind of why the intrepid class had the movable nacelle.
No, no, no. I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about this!It was a fine story with an important message that had no bearing on anything that followed. So every TNG episode.
I'd imagine warp six is the best trade-off between fuel efficiency, wear and tear and arriving at your destination in a reasonable amount of time.So it seems like Warp 6 is the ideal cruising speed, where it's fast enough to get you somewhere but not so fast that things start to fall apart.
During some episodes of Voyager, we would often initially see the ship at sublight speed, even though there didn't seen to be a reason for it. Maybe this was because the ship had to come out of warp occasionlly, even something like warp six couldn't be maintained for protracted periods.In "Pathfinder" (VOY), they say Voyager was travelling an average of Warp 6.2. The fastest it could go was Warp 9.975, although we never actually saw Voyager go that fast.
I think the "Average Cruise" will depend on the Warp Engines make & model.I've always looked at Warp 6 as being the normal cruising speed for most starships, particularly our hero ships. I think that's the highest speed a ship can maintain until fuel exhaustion without harming the engines. From Warp 7 onwards though, that's when the engines become more strained, fuel becomes more quickly drained, and ultimately system damage occurs over time, IMO.
When a captain orders "maximum warp," I see that as akin to an emergency speed that the ship can engage for a brief period of time--just enough to escape something or dash across a relatively short distance quickly. Definitely not something I think can be maintained for very long, though.
Dialogue in "Caretaker" says "sustainable cruise velocity of warp 9.975". They had the warp speed charts made for the TNG writers' guide and memos from their tech advisers saying it'd only be 20 years at that speed, but they chose to ignore it.I think the "Average Cruise" will depend on the Warp Engines make & model.
Newer vessels will have have higher "Average Cruise" vs "Maximum Speed".
- Voyager's Unscheduled 70,000 ly journey from the Delta Quadrant to home -
- Based on the on-screen estimates of 75 year journey has a average cruise speed of Warp 8 assuming unlimited fuel
- Warp 8 would take 68.36 years if non-stop with unlimited fuel, but given stops, repairs, exploration, etc. They probably rounded up to 75 years
- That means I can guess that Warp 8 was their cruise speed assuming unlimited fuel (A VERY Unrealistic Scenario)
- Galaxy Class initial Average Cruise speed was Warp 6, but later on became Warp 7
NOTE: Warp 8 = 1,024c based on the TNG era Warp Factor formula.
I suppose the "sustainable" part of that statement is somewhat open to interpretation. Sustainable for an hour, a day, a week etc?Dialogue in "Caretaker" says "sustainable cruise velocity of warp 9.975".
Of course unlike a car the fictional starship has the benefit of operating in three dimensions in an infinite area where the laws of physics don't apply to it.
Ever been on an airplane that's running late and the pilot says they'll be travelling faster to make up for the lost time? Presumably there's a reason that faster speed isn't always the default, and a similar reason would be why starships don't always travel at maximum warp.Why do say Picard or Janeway order a seemingly arbitrary warp number to go somewhere? What difference does it make? Why not just use maximum warp?
Ever been on an airplane that's running late and the pilot says they'll be travelling faster to make up for the lost time? Presumably there's a reason that faster speed isn't always the default, and a similar reason would be why starships don't always travel at maximum warp.
It should have been a 20 year journey for Janeway but that new-fangled warp system which somehow squeezed W9.975 out of those tiny nacelles broke on the journey to the Delta Quadrant and no-one on board could fix itDialogue in "Caretaker" says "sustainable cruise velocity of warp 9.975". They had the warp speed charts made for the TNG writers' guide and memos from their tech advisers saying it'd only be 20 years at that speed, but they chose to ignore it.![]()
I'm inclined to think that newer vessels could have higher maximum speeds, but roughly the same normal cruising speeds as existing ships. Anything could happen in the future--including warp drive ultimately becoming obsolete altogether--but I think for the moment there's still a general limit to how hard warp engines can be pushed indefinitely. Even Warp 9 may be impossible for most starships to maintain forever right now.I think the "Average Cruise" will depend on the Warp Engines make & model.
Newer vessels will have have higher "Average Cruise" vs "Maximum Speed".
12 hrs might be a bit generous if that it's "Max Sustainable" speed. I'd argue for no more than 3-4 hrs because that would be like Red-Lining your Internal Combustion Engine and Red-Lining for hours on end can't be good for it in terms of "Long Term Durability".I suppose the "sustainable" part of that statement is somewhat open to interpretation. Sustainable for an hour, a day, a week etc?
I've always taken it to mean that Voyager (at least fresh out of the shipyard) can, on paper, sustain warp 9.975 for twelve hours before needing to stop.
I agree, during the late 24th century, Warp 9 wouldn't be "Normal Cruise Speeds" for StarFleet vessels. That's why I had to figure out how long it would take Voyager to get home using it's "Normal Cruise Speed" where it wouldn't damage the engines and could run indefinitely if it had 'Infinite Fuel', a mostly hypothetical scenario. Obvious Voyager would have to stop at various places to collect fuel and resupply.I'm inclined to think that newer vessels could have higher maximum speeds, but roughly the same normal cruising speeds as existing ships. Anything could happen in the future--including warp drive ultimately becoming obsolete altogether--but I think for the moment there's still a general limit to how hard warp engines can be pushed indefinitely. Even Warp 9 may be impossible for most starships to maintain forever right now.
Now if Starfleet ships were capable of ludicrous speed...
I don't think it's generous, in fact I think it's reasonably accurate.12 hrs might be a bit generous if that it's "Max Sustainable" speed. I'd argue for no more than 3-4 hrs...
Then they must be defining "Maximum Warp" such that they're holding back on the actual Maximum Speed to preserve Warp Nacelle long term integrity / durability.I don't think it's generous, in fact I think it's reasonably accurate.
According to the Enterprise-D Technical Manual the ship can sustain maximum warp for twelve hours. So I think it follows that Voyager can also sustain maximum warp for a comparable amount of time.
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