Lucas open to returning to Star Wars if given full control

[Armus]

It trolled John Williams too. At a concert of his he said that he had no idea they were siblings, and was completely embarrassed about his theme for them after the reveal because the theme reached a very loud climax, which didn't quite make sense between siblings

It's possible Luke and Leia were made siblings when Lucas shelved the original story for Return of The Jedi. In it Han was going to be killed off and Leia was going to leave Luke and govern what was left of her people. When Lucas decided not to go down that route he may have made Luke and Leia siblings as a tidy way to resolve the Luke-Leia-Han triangle.

 

[ALF]

This would be the best thing that could ever happen to Star Wars, but it also has a 0% chance of actually happening.

My belief is that if Lucas was open to returning to Star Wars if given full control (we know he isn't open to this at all, but we are entertaining the notion that he would in this thread) that the world in which Lucas' Star Wars once thrived no longer exists. His sequel trilogy would have been panned worse than the Disney sequel trilogy has, although this hyperthetical [pun-intended] Lucas-ST would not have suffered from a lack of a unified vision.

 

[Alan Roi]

This would be the best thing that could ever happen to Star Wars, but it also has a 0% chance of actually happening.

Sorry, Boomers. You're ridiculous hatred of the prequels and harassment of the Star Wars creator has doomed us to the Disney Wars timeline, and there will be no second chances.

Given that Lucas hasn't offered anything decent since the 80s, and even that was a decade of some serious lows from the man, I prefer no more Lucas, and i'm not even a Boomer.

Just be happy that you got "The Mandalorian", which is the closest thing to real Star Wars you will ever see again.

At least until the Obi-Wan series comes out next year.

 

[JD]

That's what happens when writers make stuff up as they go along. Wasn't Yoda's line in TESB "No, there is another" originally supposed to lead to some brand new character, instead of circling back to Leia?

Kor

The other was always Luke's sister, but she was not going to be Leia. The original plan was for the sister to be a new character that would be a big focus of the trilogy after Return of the Jedi.

This would be the best thing that could ever happen to Star Wars, but it also has a 0% chance of actually happening.

Sorry, Boomers. You're ridiculous hatred of the prequels and harassment of the Star Wars creator has doomed us to the Disney Wars timeline, and there will be no second chances. Just be happy that you got "The Mandalorian", which is the closest thing to real Star Wars you will ever see again.

I'd gladly time the "Disney Wars timeline" over more Lucas.

 

[Tallguy]

My belief is that if Lucas was open to returning to Star Wars if given full control (we know he isn't open to this at all, but we are entertaining the notion that he would in this thread) that the world in which Lucas' Star Wars once thrived no longer exists. His sequel trilogy would have been panned worse than the Disney sequel trilogy has, although this hyperthetical [pun-intended] Lucas-ST would not have suffered from a lack of a unified vision.

I think this is spot on.

Go read Rinsler's The Making of Return of the Jedi. (All three books, actually.) If you think it's just a glossy re-telling of the Lucas legend I'd argue that Lucas doesn't come through well at all. I've said this before (maybe in this thread) almost every instinct Lucas has in the story sessions for Empire are dead on and almost every instinct he has in Jedi is terrible. He had a rough three years.

 

[Ocanain]

It’ll never happen but it’s the only hope Star Wars has to be decent again.

 

[Kirk Prime]

I don't know if it's the only hope. I think the big problem is that Kennedy is terrible. She has completely ruined the franchise in her movies, but that said, Dave Filoni is pretty decent. I liked Clone Wars a lot, and the best of Clone Wars and Rebels is as good as anything Lucas can do.

I think the best thing that could happen to Star Wars is to jettison the sequel trilogy from canon. It'll never happen, but I wish it could.

 

[Soong-type Android]

Could work if Lucas was willing to have a more collaborative approach as in the original trilogy and delegate writing and directing. If he did that for the prequels we wouldn't have had 9 year old Anakin, Jar Jar Binks and "I hate sand" type stilted dialogue and they would have been far better movies.

At least Lucas is more open to new ideas for Star Wars rather than making it all about nostalgia. I doubt his sequel trilogy would have just been remakes of the original movies and definitely wouldn't have brought back Palpatine.

 

[fireproof78]

I stand by my position that Lucas coming back is a pipe dream. This fan base drove him away from this franchise, berated him and castigated him for his choices made during the PT. Now, there is this behavior that somehow Lucas returning means he will do what? Be a lesser evil than Disney?

We made our bed.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Lucas would probably enjoy working with Dave Filoni, and I for one would be in favor of him coming and playing a similar role to the one he played in Empire - the money man with an overall creative vision that he allows more talented people than him to refine and create.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I was surprised how much Lucas was around/involved in the Mandalorian behind the scenes stuff on Disney+.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I was surprised how much Lucas was around/involved in the Mandalorian behind the scenes stuff on Disney+.

That surprised me to - again the connection to Dave Filoni.

 

[TedShatner10]

I don't know if it's the only hope. I think the big problem is that Kennedy is terrible. She has completely ruined the franchise in her movies,

How? That's typical groundless hyperbole from the poisoned well that we call SW fandom and online nerd "culture" - I found The Rise Of Skywalker a tad underwhelming and Solo a box office turkey that seemed unnecessary, but Kennedy honestly knocked it out the park with TFA, TLJ, Rogue One, and The Mandalorian.

And the factual errors are really spreading now, to reinforce the nerd rage: George Lucas had many of his ideas used in the ST, and reflected in early ST concept art (and he was perhaps a creative consultant).

I was personally entertained and that's what really matters.

 

[fireproof78]

I've been hearing Star Wars is ruined since 1999. I would love to fail that much.

 

[TedShatner10]

I've been hearing Star Wars is ruined since 1999. I would love to fail that much.

Though the PT had less of that grit that the OT (that the ST attempted to recapture).

 

[suarezguy]

Could work if Lucas was willing to have a more collaborative approach as in the original trilogy and delegate writing and directing. If he did that for the prequels we wouldn't have had 9 year old Anakin, Jar Jar Binks and "I hate sand" type stilted dialogue and they would have been far better movies.

He did work with Jonathan Hensleigh on writing Clones and I think Sith (and he did co-write Jedi and also Empire rather than just delegating them).

With others you may well have had more objections to 9-year-old Anakin, I think he himself wasn't initially planning to go so young, but I don't see how Jar-Jar is that different a comic relief character from C-3PO or that most other writers would think he was necessarily a bad idea that shouldn't be done.

 

[HugeLobes]

I stand by my position that Lucas coming back is a pipe dream. This fan base drove him away from this franchise, berated him and castigated him for his choices made during the PT. Now, there is this behavior that somehow Lucas returning means he will do what? Be a lesser evil than Disney?

I depends so much on where Disney decides to take the franchise. There's on huge decision they need to make between producing Star Wars movies for general audiences or producing Star Wars movies for Star Wars fans. I'd argue Lucas himself faced this same decision after TPM disappointed.

The first option is more of a gamble since it's much harder to do, but get it right and you have a much healthier franchise on your hands. I'd say that's what they tried to do with the sequels, and results were mixed at best. Creating something that mirrors that original trilogy's appeal is an incredibly tall order.

The second option is easier, but it means accepting that Star Wars might not be the long term success Disney probably expected. If they go for that option, hiring Lucas is a really good idea. He'll put together something with a bunch of lightsaber battles and prequel/Clone Wars style Jedi. That's all a huge portion of the fanbase wants, and they're totally fine with Lucas being 'a lesser evil than Disney'. Basically, he'll do what he did with AOTC and ROTS. Not everyone will like it, but a large enough number of fans would finally get what they wanted from Star Wars. Since those are probably the same fans likely to buy all the merch and stay with the franchise, it's probably not a bad idea. At this point, I think the best way to go would be an Abrams/Lucas collaboration.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Nobody "ruined" anything. Star Wars has had offerings of wildly varying quality throughout it's existence. For every Empire Strikes Back, there is a Holiday Special. For every Thrawn - novel - trilogy, there is a Crystal Star.
When a sci-fi franchise has virtually no practical limits on what they will license, there are bound to be issues with quality.

 

[Soong-type Android]

Nobody "ruined" anything. Star Wars has had offerings of wildly varying quality throughout it's existence. For every Empire Strikes Back, there is a Holiday Special. For every Thrawn - novel - trilogy, there is a Crystal Star.
When a sci-fi franchise has virtually no practical limits on what they will license, there are bound to be issues with quality.

And the less said about the Caravan of Courage Ewok movie the better.

 

[Jedi_Master]

If there is any "blame" to be assigned for low-quality products, place it on George Lucas who chose early on to aggressively market Star Wars.