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Spoilers Batwoman - Season 1

JD said:

Christopher said: ↑
It occurred to me this morning to wonder: What about her tattoos? Will the new actress get makeup to replicate Rose's tattoos? Or will she have different/no tattoos with the show just glossing over the change?

The tattoos have never really been a big part of the show, so I can't really see them going through the trouble of duplicating them on the new actress every week.
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Why in the world would a new actress need to wear tattoos like Rose, when RR's tattoos were not only hers long before this series (and appeared in some of her other roles), but were never made some plot point or part of the Kate character.

They will try to cast Kate/BW as few distractions as possible, hoping one interpretation flows into the other. The Jeffersons survived the switching Lionel Jeffersons, while Bewitched did the same with two Darrins--both more established and had more seasons exposed to the public than Rose, so the BW producers are probably thinking they will make a seamless transition between a one-season actress and the next. I don't agree for reasons expressed earlier, but as expected, productions want to keep the train rolling, so to speak.
 
JoeZhang said:
Not one season - An interesting variation is where a show is named after a character who is no longer in the show - In the UK, we had Taggart which ran from 1985 until 2010 and was about a dour Scottish policeman called Jim Taggart. The actor Mark McManus who played Taggart died in 1994 and the show carried on with a few different lead detectives - none of who were called Taggart.

Any similar US shows?
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The murder team was nicknamed the Taggart team, and eventually officially named that in tribute to him, justifying the series title.
 
Kai "the spy" said:
You think we'd get a Batman TV show on the CW? If they'd do it, it'd be on HBO Max.



Let's try this again.

Yes, the ultimate goal is for straight actors being cast as gay characters, and gay actors being cast as straight characters, and cis actors playing trans characters, and trans actors playing cis characters, because it all really shouldn't matter.

BUT! there is a great imbalance here, and it's actually not in favor of the minority groups, despite what some people like to tell you. There's already a lot less gay characters in media than actually reflects reality (and I say that as somebody working in adult retail, I know how many people of varying sexual preferences there are, because I sell them the stuff to fulfill their sexual preferences), and there is still a bias against openly homosexual actors.

Don't believe me? Name an openly gay actor who plays an Avenger in the MCU. You know the MCU, the big evil SJW media machine that pushes black and female heroes down our throats, name one of their big heroes that's played by an openly gay actor. Fuck, even Tessa Thompson, who is on the record as being attracted to both genders rejects the term "bisexual", that's how damaging these labels can be to an actor's career.

So, yes, there is a big fucking bias in the industry against openly gay actors. So, some producers choose to look for gay actors for their gay characters. Yeah, I know, real funny.
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Even look to the Arrowverse shows were you've two bisexual characters and 1 gay character played by straight actor and the one LBGTQ actor played a straight character until last season.
 
That one is kind of borderline, since I don't think they knew he was gay when they cast him.
 
JD said:
That one is kind of borderline, since I don't think they knew he was gay when they cast him.
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I had forgotten about Wentworh Miller though iirc there was no overt mention of snart being gay until one of the crisis cross overs.
 
Christopher said:
And of course Blake's 7, where Blake left the show halfway through its 4-year run.

There was Valerie Harper's Valerie, which lost Harper to a salary dispute after the second season. They killed off her character offscreen and retitled the show Valerie's Family: The Hogans for a year, then just The Hogan Family for the remaining seasons. There was Welcome Back, Kotter, which lost Mr. Kotter (Gabe Kaplan) for most of its final season, although they kept his wife around, so I guess the name still worked. And Laverne & Shirley lost Shirley in its last year.

The Perry Mason revival movies in the '90s did four movies with guest attorney characters replacing Perry after Raymond Burr died, under the title A Perry Mason Mystery. Paul Sorvino starred in the first, Hal Holbrook in the other three.
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Sharon Gless replaced Meg Foster as Chris Cagney after the first season of 'Cagney and Lacey', and the chemistry between the two leads improved because of it.

That's probably what helped the ratings and extended the series.
 
diankra said:
I doubt that a shorter run would mean more time per episode. Just more time between seasons, and possibly no work because everyone assumes you're full time on the series role.
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That last part doesn't make sense. There are plenty of shows with short seasons already, so there's no reason anyone in the industry would "assume" a season had to be longer. Plus, of course, if you're interested in hiring someone, you would ask them what their schedule is. I mean, that's a routine question in most job interviews -- when can you start and for how much time are you available? So of course it would be asked in acting interviews too. Nobody would "assume" anything when they can just ask.
 
Kai "the spy" said:
You think we'd get a Batman TV show on the CW? If they'd do it, it'd be on HBO Max.



Let's try this again.

Yes, the ultimate goal is for straight actors being cast as gay characters, and gay actors being cast as straight characters, and cis actors playing trans characters, and trans actors playing cis characters, because it all really shouldn't matter.

BUT! there is a great imbalance here, and it's actually not in favor of the minority groups, despite what some people like to tell you. There's already a lot less gay characters in media than actually reflects reality (and I say that as somebody working in adult retail, I know how many people of varying sexual preferences there are, because I sell them the stuff to fulfill their sexual preferences), and there is still a bias against openly homosexual actors.

Don't believe me? Name an openly gay actor who plays an Avenger in the MCU. You know the MCU, the big evil SJW media machine that pushes black and female heroes down our throats, name one of their big heroes that's played by an openly gay actor. Fuck, even Tessa Thompson, who is on the record as being attracted to both genders rejects the term "bisexual", that's how damaging these labels can be to an actor's career.

So, yes, there is a big fucking bias in the industry against openly gay actors. So, some producers choose to look for gay actors for their gay characters. Yeah, I know, real funny.
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Exactly. In an ideal world it wouldn't matter, but we live in reality. And that line of reasoning is almost always an excuse to hire a cis het person. It robs an LGBTQ actor of the opportunity to play a more authentic version of the character and robs LGBTQ of a person they can identify with. In the case of trans roles, having a trans actor can be the representation that saves a life. That's what happened to me, I probably would've killed myself if not for Nomi in Sense8. Before her I had only seen cis men playing trans women. That sort of representation hurts trans people and has been linked to violence against trans people and a lot of misinformation with the public.
 
Was Jamie playing a cis or a trans character on the L Word Q Generation?

(Google, google.)

It was Jamie's decision to play a cis character, to show that it could be done.

From the interview where I got my answers...

Similarly, while it’s brought me so much joy to witness the surge of trans women who have appeared on TV over the last couple years, I’ve often had to put aside my gayness to connect. I’m grateful for the two love stories with cis men Jen Richards got to play on Tales of the Cityand Mrs. Fletcher, the complicated love story with a cis man (well, alien) Nicole Maines is stumbling through on Supergirl, the failed crush Hunter Schafer has on a cis man on Euphoriathat leads her tentatively into the arms of her queer girl friend, and, of course, the variety of love stories between trans women (and a non-binary person) with cis men on Pose. But with each of these shows I once again must ignore a part of my identity.
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https://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-...about-trans-actresses-playing-cis-characters/

Stumbling.

:)
 
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Mr. Adventure said:
Wow, I don't remember Meg Foster at all.
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Loretta Swit of MASH played Cagney in the tv movie, but couldn't take the weekly gig as the producers wouldn't let her out of her contract. A 6 ep first season (launched as a 1982 spring mid season replacement) featured Foster in the role. Sharon Gless took over after it was picked up for the fall...
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
Why in the world would a new actress need to wear tattoos like Rose, when RR's tattoos were not only hers long before this series (and appeared in some of her other roles), but were never made some plot point or part of the Kate character.
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Actually, it was a plot point in her first Arrowverse appearance with Supergirl.

I also noticed recently that some of RR's neck tats were covered up, though not sure if it's been that way since the premiere.
 
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