Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

[Sci]

It stinks of Necheyev.

???

What does Nechayev have to do with any of this?

It would be nice to know exactly when Clancy and the Commodore were originally promoted to their current positions.

Well, we know that Oh was Chief of Starfleet Security by 2390, when she ordered the murders of Ambassador Beautiful Flower and Jana on pain of the remotely-controlled destruction of the USS Ibn Majid. It's unclear if she was Chief by 2385.

From a drama perspective it would add an extra dimension to the show but it remains to be seen if it will even be referenced again, especially as the show only has 10 episodes a season.

And because the show isn't actually about the office politics of Starfleet Headquarters...

 

[fireproof78]

And because the show isn't actually about the office politics of Starfleet Headquarters...

Exactly. How often have we seen the actual political ramifications in Star Trek?

 

[publiusr]

According to STO's lead ship designer, La Sirena from Picard is around 85 meters long, or at least that's the size CBS gave them for it

I might argue that the ship is a Lyran design—for all the SFB fans. Hugh Sicotte did similar swarm ships for -Beyond...and, so help me, I swear that I saw RPG manual for (non trek) star fighters with Roman (not Romulan) names...

If they want to shoot a Borg ship on location they should go to the Hotel De La Ville on the de Russia at roccofortehotels

 

[Tuskin38]

I’m not entirely sure what that has to do with my post that you quoted.

 

[publiusr]

Just wondering what might have inspired the artist.

 

[Kpnuts]

Fan edit, with properly designed ships:

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I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed by the ships in Picard. The designs for the Federation, Romulan and even Picard's ship are so unappealing and dull. Bring back Sternbach and Probert so we can see some real creativity and the real Star Trek!

THANK YOU! I couldn't believe they just showed the " USS COPY-PASTE " showing up.

I liked this series but Chabon's complete disinterest "in ships" is so out of tune with the fans, at the very least he should take some interest if only for the fact that it's what his customers want to see. A little bit of effort here would have gone a long way.

 

[fireproof78]

Properly...?

Also, I love the comments that claim to speak for the fans. How did fans survive TOS and TNG before all the ship porn?

 

[Kpnuts]

Properly...?

Yes, properly designed. Unlike most of Eaves' Starfleet ships. Well apart from the ugly Nova class but I'm going to assume that's another Eaves ship. The pointless cutouts give it away.

And TNG had better ship porn than Discovery or Picard combined.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Properly...?

Also, I love the comments that claim to speak for the fans. How did fans survive TOS and TNG before all the ship porn?

Remember "The Ultimate Computer" where all 4 ships were copypastes of the Enterprise????? Fake Trek!

 

[Kpnuts]

Remember "The Ultimate Computer" where all 4 ships were copypastes of the Enterprise????? Fake Trek!

Over fifty years ago.

And the Enterprise is a stunning design that looks good from every angle. The Copy Paste Class is an ugly mess, saved only by how badly it was framed and shot in the episode, so that we didn't get to see it particularly well, thankfully.

 

[Jesse1066]

I don't love the Inquiry class, but I don't feel there's anything wrong with it either. Though Neon Visual is very talented, the title "CANON Starfleet Arrives!" is ridiculous. Picard is canon, fan videos are not.

 

[Kpnuts]

And I think Trek fans survived the TOS and TNG eras just fine with these beauties @fireproof78

Notice, a common design language, similar hull colouring, standardised nacelles, hull markings etc. Alien concepts to John Eaves.

 

[fireproof78]

Remember "The Ultimate Computer" where all 4 ships were copypastes of the Enterprise????? Fake Trek!

We all know that TOS is not really Trek. It ruins Star Trek for forever!!!!

And I think Trek fans survived the TOS and TNG eras just fine with these beauties @fireproof78

Notice, a common design language, similar hull colouring, standardised nacelles, hull markings etc. Alien concepts to John Eaves.

Never any fleet action though, especially in TOS. Sorry, but Star Trek is more than just ship porn.

ETA: For my money, the Constitution and Excelsior are the only pretties in that line up. The rest are just OK to downright awful-Oberth, I'm looking at you,

 

[Kpnuts]

Never any fleet action though

So what?

Sorry, but Star Trek is more than just ship porn.

Umm, who said it wasn't? The point is ship porn is important to a large section of fans.

We all know that TOS is not really Trek. It ruins Star Trek for forever!!!!

The fact that you guys have to use a tv episode from 52 years ago to make your non-existant point is well, laughable.

ETA: For my money, the Constitution and Excelsior are the only pretties in that line up.

That wasn't your point thought. You suggested that TOS and TNG fans didn't have ship porn to enjoy. My post was to show you how wrong you were.

If you don't find any of the above pretty I can't wait to hear what you think of this jumbled mess of starship "design'. Different hull shading, different registry styles, ugly geometry, different hull markings, different nacelles, 50 shades of dull grey. Great work John Eaves

 

[cooleddie74]

I do like the Europa and the Shran.

 

[DEWLine]

Agreed.
I would have liked to see the TOS Starfleet hull typeface in use on those hulls, but that complaint aside...

 

[fireproof78]

So what?

Don't need that video you linked to enjoy the show.

Umm, who said it wasn't? The point is ship porn is important to a large section of fans.

Not important for every story.

The fact that you guys have to use a tv episode from 52 years ago to make your non-existant point is well, laughable.

What's laughable is the supreme importance being placed on ships. It rings of effects over story.

That wasn't your point thought. You suggested that TOS and TNG fans didn't have ship porn to enjoy. My post was to show you how wrong you were.

If you don't find any of the above pretty I can't wait to hear what you think of this jumbled mess of starship "design'. Different hull shading, different registry styles, ugly geometry, different hull markings, different nacelles, 50 shades of dull grey. Great work John Eaves

Eh, mixed bag. Not pretty but OK.

 

[cooleddie74]

The TOS hull font would have more effectively helped put those starships in that era of Starfleet history. They'd have made a more-than-inconsequential difference.

 

[NCC-73515]

And I think Trek fans survived the TOS and TNG eras just fine with these beauties @fireproof78

Notice, a common design language, similar hull colouring, standardised nacelles, hull markings etc. Alien concepts to John Eaves.

8 different nacelle types, 5 different hull colors and markings...

Well apart from the ugly Nova class but I'm going to assume that's another Eaves ship. The pointless cutouts give it away.

0/3 points. It's beautiful, designed by Sternbach, so there you go with your cutout reasoning XD

 

[Tuskin38]

Well apart from the ugly Nova class but I'm going to assume that's another Eaves ship.

The Nova was designed by Sternbach.

The Sovereign Class plus the Holoship and Scoutship from Insurrection were the only canon 24th Century Eaves Starfleet ships before Picard aired.

The point is ship porn is important to a large section of fans.

But not to the story, which is more important.