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Implications of the fleet

I think right now they are working on expanding the brand and not as concerned about the Enterprise. I don't think it needs to appear right now.
 
They probably considered the Enterprise too big a deal to waste on a three minute appearance. We'll see her when there is a story to be told that needs to be told with the Enterprise.

Regarding the big ass Federation fleet: If most of this story is indeed taking place in a relatively small sandbox then it doesn't seem unlikely to me that Starfleet would have a large group of ships ready to call on quickly if that inactive Borg cube wakes up.
 
*looks at Star Charts*

Starbases 10, 23, 39-Sierra, 123, 157, 173 (which I suspect wasn't as new as Picard believed in "Measure of a Man"), 234, the Qualor yards...assorted UFP member worlds (which surely have fleet yards of their own)...
 
I find it highly unlikely they will make a brand new CGI model of a 25 year old ship. YMMV.
They did create a new CG model of a 33 year old ship.
Could the Enterprise still be saved for future movies?
Doubtful. The talk about a new Star Trek movie in the past year has involved another Kelvin timeline movie or whatever Tarantino was working on. In the event we do get another movie that is not either of those, I consider it very unlikely it'll be about the Enterprise E. Simply put, a theatrical movie is not the place to use a 25 year old ship design as the main focus. And before anyone brings up Star Wars, there's no way you're going to convince me the Enterprise E is as iconic among film audiences as the Millennium Falcon, an X-Wing fighter, or an Imperial Star Destroyer.
 
MC is a bit fan of The Culture and also has talked about how large the Federation is - I think it is as simple as that in the showrunner's mind, a massive polity would have no problem fielding hundreds of ships regardless of what was doing on-screen before.

This fits surprisingly well for me. PIC is admittedly set further in the future than we have seen before but the tech just seems a little bit beyond what I would extrapolate from TNG. No hard, concrete examples, just an overall feel. What was entirely military grade and/or exceptional is now mundane with shielded houses, routine interactive holograms, instantaneous transportation, vast fleets, etc.

Planets and outposts like Riker and Troi's feel like the kind of post scarcity idylls we see in the Culture novels and the idea of exploring higher levels of AI fits well with Minds, the synths being avatars or drones.

I've often thought the Federation could well fit into the Culture universe as either a primitive but benign polity to be encountered or even one of the oft mentioned but little explored forerunner societies which led to the Culture proper.

Was V'Ger an Eccentric GSV?
Was NOMAD really a rogue drone?
Who made the Dyson Sphere?
Was Gary Seven Special Circumstances?
What about that sphere in DSC?
 
They did create a new CG model of a 33 year old ship.

Let me rephrase my statement. I find it highly unlikely they will make a brand new CGI model of a 25 year old ship unless there’s a specific reason for them to do so. I don’t think anyone’s really pining to see the Enterprise-E again.
 
Yet we all registries seen in the TOS era and before it are under 2000. That 7000 must have included all sorts of small craft.
If Starfleet works anything like the United States Navy does (and I don't see why not, since it cribs so much from all sorts of US styles and customs), they could use different types of hull numbers for different types of ships. A US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier's hull prefix is CVN; a fast attack submarine's is SSN; a guided missile destroyer's is DDG; and so on. So maybe there are a lot of Starfleet vessels with a classification code that isn't NCC (or NX), and we just haven't seen them.

Although if Trek were really utilizing a similar system, we would have already seen different codes used for vessels that are very clearly different from starships, such as the runabouts. But all of the runabouts we've seen so far use NCC; i.e. USS Ganges (NCC-72454). So whatever.
 
Well certainly there are Federation ships with different prefixes, like NAR, which was the prefix of the Hansen family's USS Raven. I forget if that line of dialog referred to Starfleet or the Federation.
 
Am I weird for hoping that, when the Enterprise finally does show up, her captain isn't someone we'd expect? Such as Worf or Geordi, for example.
 
I’m of half a mind about this. On the one hand, I really want to see a new Enterprise. On the other hand, I really don’t trust the producers of PIC to come up with a good design.
My mindset is simple-Trek needs to move past the Enterprise as a core ingredient.
 
We don't know if Discovery Season 3 will feature a 31st Century Enterprise. No need to push out multiple Enterprises.
 
If Starfleet works anything like the United States Navy does (and I don't see why not, since it cribs so much from all sorts of US styles and customs), they could use different types of hull numbers for different types of ships. A US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier's hull prefix is CVN; a fast attack submarine's is SSN; a guided missile destroyer's is DDG; and so on. So maybe there are a lot of Starfleet vessels with a classification code that isn't NCC (or NX), and we just haven't seen them.

Although if Trek were really utilizing a similar system, we would have already seen different codes used for vessels that are very clearly different from starships, such as the runabouts. But all of the runabouts we've seen so far use NCC; i.e. USS Ganges (NCC-72454). So whatever.

To quote myself from a few years back:

Not purely.

However, existing nods along similar lines can be seen in certain Starfleet ship names:

NX-01 (First long-range starship) --> Same name as OV-101 (first orbiter)
NX-02 --> Same name as OV-102 (first flight-capable orbiter, second orbiter)
NCC-1031 ---> Same name as OV-103 (Third orbiter)

So it's not a must but I don't think it's a must not like having registrations that tell you nothing about the ship's capabilities.

Frankly, I'd like to see a bit more variety on the prefixes too. For instance:

NAR = Auxiliary Research Vessel
NAM = Auxiliary Medical Vessel ("Hospital Ship")
NES/NAS = Exploration of Auxiliary (?) Escort Ship
NSP = Supply Vessel
NFF = Exploration Frigate (small multi-role starship, ex-hero ships)
NCC = Exploration Cruiser (medium multi-role starship, most hero ships during their era)
NED/NCO = Exploration/Diplomatic Vessel or Exploration Command Ship (large multi-role starship, suitable for diplomatic and flapship duties.
NX = Experimental Vessel

Under this system, most of the Enterprises (up to 1701-C) and Excelsior would have remained NCC, with the "D" upgrading to NED or NCO, switching to either 70701 or 71701 for the digits.

Rio Grande and its sister ships would have been either NAR or NSP-72452, Defiant-A would be NES or NAS-74205-A or 75633 (vis-a-vis the prototype would be still be NX-74205. Voyager could potentially be NCC-74656 but NFF-74656 would be more likely given the smaller platform).
 
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