...Discovery had not gone into the future?
I confess, I'm checking out of Discovery now that they're doing the super future jump. I was in it because we were finally exploring the TOS era, but since the producers are bowing to pressure to jump to a new time period, my interest in the show has vanished.
Part of why I'll miss the characters is because I really wanted to see how they'd cross paths with the regulars from TOS and other TOS (and Enterprise?) plot threads in the 2270s and 2280s era of trek history.
I wanted to open up this thread to muse aloud, and muse with others, where the crew would be had Season 2 not resulted in needing to send the crew into the distant future. I'll start with my thoughts;
Tilly I see climbing through the ranks before becoming a chief engineer by the 2270s, and gets her own shot at the captaincy in the 80s' and 90s'. Her experience with the mycellial network and other methods of FTL travel have her briefly intersect with transwarp drive, but a bulk of her involvement is converting Transwarp over to Warp drive for the Excelsior. She takes the helm of the NX Constellation for a five year mission before she switches to the Starfleet Corps of engineering for advanced and unorthedox technologies. She's regarded as one of the parents of Bio-Neural circuitry, since a paper she publishes on interfacing between the spore drive and starfleet tech could be a useful technology. She works together with Statmets on implementing the first applications of the technology in the Starfleet 2310s fleets.
Burnham remains a controversial figure in starfleet, her command gets stunted accordingly and, ultimately, she's not given command of a ship of her own. Sparring with the brass and fallout over her behavior during the Red Angel crisis has her end up being isolated from her shipmates when she's assigned to a remote outpost. That remote outpost sees a disastrous first encounter with the Cardassians, and shes steps up to plate once again to lead the base after the commander is killed. For a year she keeps the remote base and its few starship contingent together until Captain Garth arrives to relieve the beleaguered starbase. He becomes her champion in starfleet and advocates for promoting her to do more in starfleet. Coming from such a famous commander (before his fall at Antos IV), Starfleet has to bow to public pressure and try to promote her to a desk job to silence her.
It backfires, as she uses her position to form a cadre of her own officers to build a more proactive command echelon (Nogura and Cartwright are among her allies by the 2270s). She continues to fight with the old guard through the duration of the 2260s trying to push Starfleet into being more of a proactive force for good, but ultimately she's resisted at every turn (Section 31 is also hobbling her efforts). In the end she retires and tries to go into politics, serving as a controversial senator in the Federation council. As in her later starfleet career she's heckled and harassed by a battery of civilian critics, who abuse her public image in effigy of unwanted progressive policies (she breaks with Cartright over how to deal with the Klingons). The harassment forces her to retire from public life to head up charitable organizations. She passes away in private life sometime in the 2300s. She's never recognized for her accomplishments except through Historians noting how earnestly she was trying to improve the Federation.
Saru steps into the captaincy of the Discovery after two notable campaigns of being a very capable Executive officer and serves as Captain of the Discovery. He's assigned to Captain the Intrepid due to his experience with cross-species command before he's called away on a home crisis to resolve a diplomatic crisis between the Kelpians and Ba'ul on his world. When the Intrepid is destroyed he's called up to command another starship, before rising the rank of Commodore and then to the board of admiralty by the 2270s. He's a voice of reason on the admiralty board, conflicting with Burnham's firebrand progressive faction in the Federation but tempering the old guard. It's painful for him to fight with old friends, but he sees himself as one of the stalwarts keeping the Federation together. It was Saru to suggest demoting Kirk back to the Captaincy in IV, before he is forced into retirement by Cartwright's Hawkish faction. All through his career and beyond, Saru is an advocate for changing the policy of the Prime Directive to allow the Federation to intervene on behalf of oppressed pre-FTL races as the Kelpians once were. Saru's efforts are for naught, and the Prime Directive survives intact beyond him. He passes away mere days after the launch of the Enterprise-D.
Statmets musters out of starfleet but travels with Culber, who is assigned to starbases as the chief medical officer. He writes papers on mycellial technology but refuses to dip into field experiments once again knowing how they were co-opted in war. Statmets goes into teaching while compiling his notes in private. A chance meeting with Tilly to catch up during her time commanding the Constellation stokes interest in bio-control interfaces, and Statmets adds his voice to Tillys to pioneer the technology. He's a chief consultant of implementing the technology on prototypes in the 2300s, refusing to work on warships but heartened by Starfleet's shift to a more peaceful exploration stance in the aftermath of the Khitomer conference.
That's what I got. If this is better served in fanfiction feel free, mods, to punt it over there.
Where do you folks see the Discovery crew had they not jumped in time?
I confess, I'm checking out of Discovery now that they're doing the super future jump. I was in it because we were finally exploring the TOS era, but since the producers are bowing to pressure to jump to a new time period, my interest in the show has vanished.
Part of why I'll miss the characters is because I really wanted to see how they'd cross paths with the regulars from TOS and other TOS (and Enterprise?) plot threads in the 2270s and 2280s era of trek history.
I wanted to open up this thread to muse aloud, and muse with others, where the crew would be had Season 2 not resulted in needing to send the crew into the distant future. I'll start with my thoughts;
Tilly I see climbing through the ranks before becoming a chief engineer by the 2270s, and gets her own shot at the captaincy in the 80s' and 90s'. Her experience with the mycellial network and other methods of FTL travel have her briefly intersect with transwarp drive, but a bulk of her involvement is converting Transwarp over to Warp drive for the Excelsior. She takes the helm of the NX Constellation for a five year mission before she switches to the Starfleet Corps of engineering for advanced and unorthedox technologies. She's regarded as one of the parents of Bio-Neural circuitry, since a paper she publishes on interfacing between the spore drive and starfleet tech could be a useful technology. She works together with Statmets on implementing the first applications of the technology in the Starfleet 2310s fleets.
Burnham remains a controversial figure in starfleet, her command gets stunted accordingly and, ultimately, she's not given command of a ship of her own. Sparring with the brass and fallout over her behavior during the Red Angel crisis has her end up being isolated from her shipmates when she's assigned to a remote outpost. That remote outpost sees a disastrous first encounter with the Cardassians, and shes steps up to plate once again to lead the base after the commander is killed. For a year she keeps the remote base and its few starship contingent together until Captain Garth arrives to relieve the beleaguered starbase. He becomes her champion in starfleet and advocates for promoting her to do more in starfleet. Coming from such a famous commander (before his fall at Antos IV), Starfleet has to bow to public pressure and try to promote her to a desk job to silence her.
It backfires, as she uses her position to form a cadre of her own officers to build a more proactive command echelon (Nogura and Cartwright are among her allies by the 2270s). She continues to fight with the old guard through the duration of the 2260s trying to push Starfleet into being more of a proactive force for good, but ultimately she's resisted at every turn (Section 31 is also hobbling her efforts). In the end she retires and tries to go into politics, serving as a controversial senator in the Federation council. As in her later starfleet career she's heckled and harassed by a battery of civilian critics, who abuse her public image in effigy of unwanted progressive policies (she breaks with Cartright over how to deal with the Klingons). The harassment forces her to retire from public life to head up charitable organizations. She passes away in private life sometime in the 2300s. She's never recognized for her accomplishments except through Historians noting how earnestly she was trying to improve the Federation.
Saru steps into the captaincy of the Discovery after two notable campaigns of being a very capable Executive officer and serves as Captain of the Discovery. He's assigned to Captain the Intrepid due to his experience with cross-species command before he's called away on a home crisis to resolve a diplomatic crisis between the Kelpians and Ba'ul on his world. When the Intrepid is destroyed he's called up to command another starship, before rising the rank of Commodore and then to the board of admiralty by the 2270s. He's a voice of reason on the admiralty board, conflicting with Burnham's firebrand progressive faction in the Federation but tempering the old guard. It's painful for him to fight with old friends, but he sees himself as one of the stalwarts keeping the Federation together. It was Saru to suggest demoting Kirk back to the Captaincy in IV, before he is forced into retirement by Cartwright's Hawkish faction. All through his career and beyond, Saru is an advocate for changing the policy of the Prime Directive to allow the Federation to intervene on behalf of oppressed pre-FTL races as the Kelpians once were. Saru's efforts are for naught, and the Prime Directive survives intact beyond him. He passes away mere days after the launch of the Enterprise-D.
Statmets musters out of starfleet but travels with Culber, who is assigned to starbases as the chief medical officer. He writes papers on mycellial technology but refuses to dip into field experiments once again knowing how they were co-opted in war. Statmets goes into teaching while compiling his notes in private. A chance meeting with Tilly to catch up during her time commanding the Constellation stokes interest in bio-control interfaces, and Statmets adds his voice to Tillys to pioneer the technology. He's a chief consultant of implementing the technology on prototypes in the 2300s, refusing to work on warships but heartened by Starfleet's shift to a more peaceful exploration stance in the aftermath of the Khitomer conference.
That's what I got. If this is better served in fanfiction feel free, mods, to punt it over there.
Where do you folks see the Discovery crew had they not jumped in time?
