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"Interfering is definitely Picard's thing"?

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That settles it. Those new producers have never ever watched the TNG series but only some of the late movies if they are to say such a monumentally ludicrous thing when the MAIN "thing" of Picard was to not be interfering and erratic.
 
But... interfering is Picard's thing, when it's warranted. We see him interfering all the time.

He interferes with an Edo judicial proceeding against Wesley Crusher in "Justice," he saves Sarjenka's planet in "Pen Pals," he urges Worf not to accept discommendation in "Sins of the Father," he allows a Human boy to live amongst the Talarians in "Suddenly Human," he agrees to serve as Klingon Arbiter of Succession in "Reunion," he seeks to expose the Ventaxian devil as a con artist in "Devil's Due," he mobilizes a Federation fleet to expose Romulan involvement with the House of Duras in the Klingon Civil War in "Redemption, Parts I & II," he assists the Romulan Reunification movement in "Unification, Parts I & II," he interferes with Nova Squad's little conspiracy in "The First Duty," he attempts to destabilize the Borg Collective in "I, Borg," he exposed parts of his future relationship with Guinan to her 19th Century self in "Time's Arrow, Part II," he participates in an espionage mission against the Cardassian Union in "Chain of Command, Part I," he facilitates the transportation of Romulan dissidents into Federation space in "Face of the Enemy," he freaked out and tracked down and confronted the thieves who stole from an archaeological site before deciding to infiltrate them on their mission to find an ancient Vulcan weapon in "Gambit, Parts I & II," he interfered with Admiral Pressman's illegal phase cloaking operation by exposing it to the Romulans in "The Pegasus," he thwarted the corrupt admiral's plans in "Ensign Ro," he facilitates the placement of a Federation mole in Cardassian space in "Lower Decks," he helps save a prewarp civilization from extinction in "Homeward," he thwarts his own government by allowing a Native American colony to renounce Federation citizenship against the UFP government's will in "Journey's End," he tries to help suppress Maquis activity even after they've declared independence from the Federation in "Preemptive Strike," he's more than willing to illegal enter Klingon territory in the alternate future of "All Good Things, Parts I & II," he violates the Temporal Prime Directive in Star Trek: First Contact, he thwarts the illegal Son'a/UFP operation to forcibly relocated the Bak'u in Star Trek: Insurrection, and he attempts to mobilize the largest fleet in interstellar history to try to save the inhabitants of Romulus and Remus in the backstory to Star Trek: Picard.

Sorry, but the dude has a long history of interfering, whatever rhetoric he might espouse.
 
But... interfering is Picard's thing, when it's warranted. We see him interfering all the time.

He interferes with an Edo judicial proceeding against Wesley Crusher in "Justice," he saves Sarjenka's planet in "Pen Pals," he urges Worf not to accept discommendation in "Sins of the Father," he allows a Human boy to live amongst the Talarians in "Suddenly Human," he agrees to serve as Klingon Arbiter of Succession in "Reunion," he seeks to expose the Ventaxian devil as a con artist in "Devil's Due," he mobilizes a Federation fleet to expose Romulan involvement with the House of Duras in the Klingon Civil War in "Redemption, Parts I & II," he assists the Romulan Reunification movement in "Unification, Parts I & II," he interferes with Nova Squad's little conspiracy in "The First Duty," he attempts to destabilize the Borg Collective in "I, Borg," he exposed parts of his future relationship with Guinan to her 19th Century self in "Time's Arrow, Part II," he participates in an espionage mission against the Cardassian Union in "Chain of Command, Part I," he facilitates the transportation of Romulan dissidents into Federation space in "Face of the Enemy," he freaked out and tracked down and confronted the thieves who stole from an archaeological site before deciding to infiltrate them on their mission to find an ancient Vulcan weapon in "Gambit, Parts I & II," he interfered with Admiral Pressman's illegal phase cloaking operation by exposing it to the Romulans in "The Pegasus," he thwarted the corrupt admiral's plans in "Ensign Ro," he facilitates the placement of a Federation mole in Cardassian space in "Lower Decks," he helps save a prewarp civilization from extinction in "Homeward," he thwarts his own government by allowing a Native American colony to renounce Federation citizenship against the UFP government's will in "Journey's End," he tries to help suppress Maquis activity even after they've declared independence from the Federation in "Preemptive Strike," he's more than willing to illegal enter Klingon territory in the alternate future of "All Good Things, Parts I & II," he violates the Temporal Prime Directive in Star Trek: First Contact, he thwarts the illegal Son'a/UFP operation to forcibly relocated the Bak'u in Star Trek: Insurrection, and he attempts to mobilize the largest fleet in interstellar history to try to save the inhabitants of Romulus and Remus in the backstory to Star Trek: Picard.

Sorry, but the dude has a long history of interfering, whatever rhetoric he might espouse.
Pretty much everything on that list is intervening, not interfering. Intervening is definitely Picard's thing. :)
 
That settles it. Those new producers have never ever watched the TNG series but only some of the late movies if they are to say such a monumentally ludicrous thing when the MAIN "thing" of Picard was to not be interfering and erratic.
I doubt it's an issue of having never watched the TNG series although I can see why you'd get that impression. These people producing and writing it probably grew up with it like we did.

However, it seems like they just want to make Picard into a Hollywood hero stereotype. I think this change started to become more prominent in the movies. If I recall, Patrick Stewart requested that they make him more action-oriented. And in many action movies the action hero is usually the guy breaking rules, chip on his shoulder, big ego, etc etc. For example the hard nosed, cop who breaks rules to catch the bad guys, and the bureaucratic pencil pushers who try to prevent them from doing just that, but they can't because the action hero is unstoppable.

I remember in FC they did the same thing, but unlike typical action movies where that conflict between the hero and the by-the-rules pencil pushers at the top plays is developed and plays out through the course of the movie, in FC it was introduced in the very beginning and the resolved like 5 minutes later. Earth is being attacked, Starfleet is getting their asses kicked, but the greatest captain of the flagship is asked to sit this one out. Picard was once a Borg for a day, and once the Enterprise got him back, he still managed to give them a secret strategy that defeated the Borg and saved the day, while he still half alive and had Borg implants stuck throughout his body.
"To hell with orders sir." :rolleyes:

So now he's this guy that can't be bothered to consult with lawyers, is known for interfering being his thing, all ego and rampaging id, the man who can't be stopped, etc etc.

I think this is also to counterbalance Picard's/Stewarts obvious elderly demeanor. It's hard to sell younger viewers or people unfamiliar with Jean-Luc Picard as a hero, so playing up this frail old man as almost this devil-may-care persona makes you think, "there's more to this guy than just being the psychic in a wheelchair."
 
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That settles it. Those new producers have never ever watched the TNG series but only some of the late movies if they are to say such a monumentally ludicrous thing when the MAIN "thing" of Picard was to not be interfering and erratic.

Picard was shocked when he was told in the Drumhead that he'd broken the Prime Directive like 30 times.

Picard learned to break the rules.
 
Picard was shocked when he was told in the Drumhead that he'd broken the Prime Directive like 30 times.

Picard learned to break the rules.
I’m watching that right now to see that.

To be fair, PIC is referencing ALL of TNG canon, including the TNG movies. As much as I think the movies strayed too much from the show, Picard did become more of “rule breaker” in FC, and Insurrection. So that probably plays a part, even if I feel the Picard in the original TNG show was more iconic and established than the movie version.

And it’s mentioned he violated the Prime Directive nine times in that episode.
 
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I’m watching that right now to see that.

To be fair, PIC is referencing ALL of TNG canon, including the TNG movies. As much as I think the movies strayed too much from the show, Picard did become more of “rule breaker” in FC, and Insurrection. So that probably plays a part, even if I feel the Picard in the original TNG show was more iconic and established than the movie version.

And it’s mentioned he violated the Prime Directive nine times in that episode.

Well he's had a few seasons since then to catch up to my number. :) The character of Jean Luc Picard changed a great deal from the first season where he was meant to be a older man in his sixties and Riker the action star. Instead, Picard ended up doing the Bruce Willis role in "Starship Mine" and having the space thief love interest.
 
That settles it. Those new producers have never ever watched the TNG series but only some of the late movies if they are to say such a monumentally ludicrous thing when the MAIN "thing" of Picard was to not be interfering and erratic.
Ever watch Insurrection? It's the latter-day Picard that Raffi knows, not the one who'd happily let entire populations die because Prime Directive.
 
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