But without any guarantee of a treatment or a vaccine ever actually being made, you are basically looking at a complete collapse eventually. Starvation, riots, all that stuff. Permanent lockdown is impossible.
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Not to mention civil unrest and the possibility of suicide because there is nothing to live for. I just checked the map and there are 600 deaths recorded because of this thing, and it sucks even harder that it's going to go up. That absolutely sucks and it's a bad bad situation. There are millions of Americans (And much much more than that of people living all around the world) who just became unemployed last week though, and if they were living paycheck to paycheck, they no longer have a way to make ends meat, but hey, if they are living in house arrest for years on in at least they are alive right?
And I'm being called a sociopath?
Without having significantly measures of control over the spread of the virus and significant rethinking about how people work and congregate in public, "restarting" is not only meaningless, it is tragic. Ending the orders to stay at home or shelter in place will also give people a false sense of security about their health.
BTW, another great way to crash the economy would be to overwhelm health insurance providers all at once.
BTW, another great way to crash the economy would be to overwhelm health insurance providers all at once.
And on the other hand, the prediction for death toll if the country is completely opened up is... 4 MILLION deaths. And that's not a guarantee that it will stop there. If you can get reinfected relatively quickly and herd immunity is impossible, this would just be a very slow apocalypse.
So you either die from the virus or wait to die because of everything else that comes because of the virus. Either way that is a very grim thought. I have to keep hope that we will find something of good news soon. Maybe it's blind hope, but anything else is just not good at all.
By the way, I think it is good that everything has become shut down, and I do not want to see this virus spread faster than it already has. However, life has to go on so we need to figure out a way to stop the spread of this virus, bring on various treatments make sure it's safe to go back to work, and do that as quickly as possible.
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We need to stay locked down until the peak is reached, and then continue until the number of new cases is totally manageable. Then we implement south korean style contact tracing and just keep the virus contained.
Also my nightmare scenario seems very unlikely. Vaccines will probably work, treatments will probably be found, and reinfection is probably unlikely. So it's not the end of the world.
I agree. I just hope it's better than what I've been hearing about this 18 month time frame. Like I said, I have to hope for good news because everything else is just bad and depressing.
Yeah I actually started antidepressants yesterday. Couldn't deal with the bad news anymore, it probably triggered a latant depression in me or something.
The good news that got me through the day is the expectation that Italy has already peaked, but today's reversal of the short trend was devastating. I need a light at the end of the tunnel, and I need it soon.
Based on the comments in this thread, you're alive and your depression be damned. I don't share that outlook. I hope you (And everyone) take care of yourself and are not afraid to talk to people (Online or video or phone call) to boost your moral.
No you don't care. I would have the Dow go to negative numbers and EVERYTHING closed for 3 months like China just to save ONE 110 year old.
You can be in house arrest for 2-3 months at a time. You know how long death is? It's house arrest that never ends.
So once again I repeat, fuck the economy, fuck them all. Once this is over I hope Americans finally wake up and take to the streets and burn shit down, figuratively at first and then literally if need be.
The federal government gave the banks TRILLIONS of dollars in the fall and that did nothing. Just think of what trillions could do to normal Americans instead of corporations. Right away banks got 1.5 trillion dollars and no one batted an eye, but now Americans can't get $2000 a month?
Fuck that. Let it burn.
It's only been like three weeks in Italy, they have two more months at least.
Someone in my neighbourhood, who has bad lungs and only comes outside wearing a mask to get groceries, was deliberately coughed in his face by some youth. 
I think health insurance providers will be just fine. 95% of the time they get paid for nothing. That should cover the gouging that goes on at hospitals and doctor's offices the 5% of the time they actually have to pay out.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
And if it was about the lives of many being saved by sacrificing a few, there might be something to argue, but that is not what this is about. This is the comfort of the many against the lives of the few. And sorry, lives matter more than comfort.
That was uncalled for. He was not saying human lives don't matter. Warning for flaming. Comments to PM.
Let's keep the theorizing out of this thread please, Dryson. It's irresponsible to spread misinformation and largely unproven (especially on this virus, which is not the flu) or impractical methods.