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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

It looks like a Cylon raider painted green, with its wings swept back instead of forward.
True! It's like taken streight out of Battlestar Galactica. The ship designs look sooo bad :( They all have windows now, instead of viewscreens, which makes no sense at all. And their scales and rules for construction are completely messed up. No warp nacelles anymore... so generic looking! I don't think, John Eaves did this in on purpose... really bad choice from the showrunners
 
These are great for the "Space Roman" theme, and worthy successors to the TOS design. A bit on the light side for a culture that previously did the D'deridex, though. Have the Romulans switched doctrines, or do the villains of the week command lesser resources than the average Romulan military commander? Were all the behemoths lost in the supernova even when random TOS ships survive? Is building these lightweights taking up all the resources, leaving none for capital ships?
I wonder if it is just a trying to face down an insurmountable enemy through superior numbers.

As much as I appreciate that Trek battles and fleets have varied over the years one thing I have appreciated is the idea that the dangers have become bigger, so fleets have moved to match it. It's very reactionary of recognizing when their fleets failed (i.e. against the Dominion twice!) or with the Scimitar, which shows how one big bad can be defanged and leave you without any recourse.

I think it is a change of combat doctrine, rather than just sticking with the bigger is better approach that has prevailed for so long.

Personally I love the new Romulan ships. They look like an evolution of the valdore type warbirds
Same here. I really am glad to have these Romulan designs.
 
I wonder if it is just a trying to face down an insurmountable enemy through superior numbers.

As much as I appreciate that Trek battles and fleets have varied over the years one thing I have appreciated is the idea that the dangers have become bigger, so fleets have moved to match it. It's very reactionary of recognizing when their fleets failed (i.e. against the Dominion twice!) or with the Scimitar, which shows how one big bad can be defanged and leave you without any recourse.

I think it is a change of combat doctrine, rather than just sticking with the bigger is better approach that has prevailed for so long.


Same here. I really am glad to have these Romulan designs.
Absolutely, mixed fleets are essential, you need smaller and faster ships to deal with the enemies smaller and faster ships, that was learned against the kamikaze Jem'Hadar Attack Ships in DS9.

You also still need Capital Ships that can give (big guns have big power requirements) and take (same for shields) serious punishment if needs be but they must be protected by mid size Destroyer screens to help soak up the incoming damage and stop smaller ships getting to the Capital Ships.

Its not going to be all that different from what we see in naval fleets.

Clearly the Zhat Vash/Tal'Shiar are not messing around, I am curious about the lack of larger ships in the Romulan fleet as they are generally better at orbital bombardment, then again they don't really know what to expect in terms of opposition around the Synth planet, so a fleet comprised of mostly small to medium size ships is understandable with just a few Capital Ships included for added punch.

The only problem is it could seriously cripple the Tal'Shiar if the fight doesn't go their way, someone or something else is going to intervene as a damaged Borg cube is no match for that number of ships.

I have no doubt Starfleet could match it but not at the drop of a hat.

Thing is we don't know what all those ships have been told, they may not realise what is actually going on here, in which case all the allies need to do is broadcast the truth or take out the lead ship with the Commodore on it.

Will Laris and Zhaban call in favors and bring in allies of their own from the Romulan Military or will the Intelligence just attack everyone instead.
 
Space warfare has been a bit dicey for a long time, in many franchises. The latest SW films were especially bad. No one can shoot down a fighter? "Its too small for our turbo lasers" or somesuch. Ummm, air defense? CIWS? Point defense missiles? Anyone heard of that? And a "bomber" has to fly right over it and drop bombs? Why not use missiles? Crazy bad stuff. Dreadful. The Death Star would have a tighter defense but smaller fighters arent a big threat? Missiles with WMDs are that size. So it doesnt have a missile defense? Whoa!

In general, alot of Trafalgar, point blank range exchanges, and there is a fixation with "dreadnoughts". Like 1912 Royal Navy Admirals. "What can that little plane do to my battleship"? In ensuing decades, we saw the answer. It could vaporize ur dreadnought with a nuke. Or sink it with bombs, missles and torpedoes.

You mean an 18m fighter could wipe out a 270m Capital Ship? Yes. With ease. One missile and it's over.
 
No one can shoot down a fighter? "Its too small for our turbo lasers" or somesuch.
That's been in SW since the beginning :rommie:
Like 1912 Royal Navy Admirals. "What can that little plane do to my battleship"? In ensuing decades, we saw the answer. It could vaporize ur dreadnought with a nuke. Or sink it with bombs, missles and torpedoes.
Just study the Bismark. Love that story. Old Swordfish biplanes were the technologically advanced battleship's weakness.
 
I am sure the Rangers will come in the finale. Not sure what other ships they have. Sevens looked like a small attack ship. We dont know how many of those they have or if they have others. Starfleet will probably come. The Giant Tulips (?!?) will be in action. Between the SF squadron, the Borg Cube, the Rangers and the Tulips they might be able to stop the Romulans.
 
Space warfare has been a bit dicey for a long time, in many franchises. The latest SW films were especially bad. No one can shoot down a fighter? "Its too small for our turbo lasers" or somesuch. Ummm, air defense? CIWS? Point defense missiles? Anyone heard of that? And a "bomber" has to fly right over it and drop bombs? Why not use missiles? Crazy bad stuff. Dreadful. The Death Star would have a tighter defense but smaller fighters arent a big threat? Missiles with WMDs are that size. So it doesnt have a missile defense? Whoa!

In general, alot of Trafalgar, point blank range exchanges, and there is a fixation with "dreadnoughts". Like 1912 Royal Navy Admirals. "What can that little plane do to my battleship"? In ensuing decades, we saw the answer. It could vaporize ur dreadnought with a nuke. Or sink it with bombs, missles and torpedoes.

You mean an 18m fighter could wipe out a 270m Capital Ship? Yes. With ease. One missile and it's over.

Space bombers is such a joke. Another pet hate is a bunch of ships all meeting same way up in the vacuum of space.
For good more realistic space battles I again refer you to The Expanse
 
I am sure the Rangers will come in the finale. Not sure what other ships they have. Sevens looked like a small attack ship. We dont know how many of those they have or if they have others. Starfleet will probably come. The Giant Tulips (?!?) will be in action. Between the SF squadron, the Borg Cube, the Rangers and the Tulips they might be able to stop the Romulans.

I reckon the rangers will have a famous ship as their flag if they show up. Maybe Defiant
 
Star Trek battles are often badass. I also know that they're not how real-life space combat would likely take place and I'm cool with that.
 
The Romulan ships in PIC never really bother me. They're clearly an evolution of TNG- and TNG Movie-Era designs and even a nod to 23rd century TOS Romulan technology and ship design.

I hated the Romulan warbirds in TNG with the big chicken beak. I'm glad to see those all blew up in the supernova!
 
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