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Nitpicky Things that just get on your nerves
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How there's no map that really completely works with the fact that it's set in 3D space, or works with what happens in the various storylines.
How can the Klingons have a border with the Cardassians if they're on opposite ends of the Federation in most maps?
How can the Klingons have a border with the Cardassians if they're on opposite ends of the Federation in most maps?
Space is swiss cheese, and borders are around star systems at best, with international (intergalactic) space the norm in 99% of the locales. This is how both Kirk and Picard were "exploring" unknown space, but then always finding a port of call on a Federation port or station fairly often.
The Klingons have disconnected colonies deep in the Alpha Quadrant, far away from their home worlds. They probably had an early edict to secure the systems closest to Qo'noS, and then Boreth, and then expanded to places rich in dilithium and slave labor. The Federation expands into places that accept their rules and guidelines. If a Gamma Quadrant planet petitioned to join the Federation, they'd probably be welcomed openly. In fact, Bajor had a colony in that Quadrant, making the Bajoran Republic one of the largest spacefaring cultures if you were to draw it on the map.
There was a sort of 'isometric' map toted around in TNG, but it wasn't colored. And maps would be...well, at this point, software for the most part, like google earth but in SPACEEE. Orion's Arm and Outsider have had 3d maps you can move around with, though the death of Flash knocked them out.
I’m rewatching Voyager and forgot how much it bothers me that the actor who plays Tom Paris played cadet Locarno in TNG. It would have been an interesting intersection to have that actor keep the character of Locarno. It would have made an interesting enough twist to have Locarno join the maquis. I know they use the same actors, from one series to the next, to portray different characters, but usually they aren’t so clearly recognizable. Thank you for the space for this nit-picky rant.
The character was intended to be Locarno originally but they didn't want to pay royalties to the writers of the Next Gen episode every time he appeared so they invented a new character with a near-identical backstory.
I remember I'd only seen "The First Duty" once and assumed they were the same character until I rewatched later.
This can be done at some point in the future of the franchise, but...
We never know the fate of the Enterprise-B. We know the ending of all the others, except the E, though it may very well be around still.
Was it destroyed? Lost? Mothballed? Stolen? Turned into a museum?
I'd like to know.
We never know the fate of the Enterprise-B. We know the ending of all the others, except the E, though it may very well be around still.
Was it destroyed? Lost? Mothballed? Stolen? Turned into a museum?
I'd like to know.
I think the ship was decommissioned on Tuesday... by Admiral Carter Heywood... after Romulan Commander Deidre commandeered Captain Stuart Bondeck Harriman's big ship.
I do need to watch some Spin City again sometime...
Yes, but that's not how it's usually portrayed in Star Trek, be it the show or the "Beta Canon" maps (with the only excepting I can think of right now being Seven's map of Krenim Space during VOY's Year of Hell episodes)
Most of the time ST maps treat the Galaxy like it was a pie cut into slices by the various larger empires which are portrayed with continuous territory.
Fanon says they disappeared. Which is...eh.
There's just so many times you can outright lose a ship and not just shelve the name. We've already seen it with the C-D, there was a big gap, If the B disappeared, after the A was decomm'd and the Ent lost, it wouldn't really fly well. I think the B just had a good life, fought in brush wars and sector wars, solved conflicts, and was replaced by the Ambassador because the Ambassador was this 'specially made explorer/diplomat ship unlike the Excelsior which is just a normal cruiser' - and the Ambassadors barely took off while Excelsiors went everwhere.
Facts and logic? How dare you!...Because the Enterprise figured out its big weakness and blowed it up real good? Cloaking has no tactical advantage if you know how to detect the cloak.
Exactly.
I have a feeling that that equipment became standard issue pretty damn quickly after STVI.
Rule of funny.
Yep. Found in searches for "pay" and "how much" for TOS & the first six movies at Star Trek Script Search:
From "Who Mourns For Adonias?":
From "The Doomsday Machine":
From "Mudd's Women":
From "I, Mudd":
From "Requiem For Methuselah":
From "The Enterprise Incident":
From "The Devil in the Dark":
From "The Apple":
We have a whole haggling scene in "The Trouble With Tribbles":
From " A Piece of the Action":
And from the end of the episode, Kirk proposes re-investing Starfleet's cut into a planetary treasury:
There's more haggling in Star Trek III:
And in a cut scene from the original Nicholas Meyer/Denny Martin Flynn script for Star Trek VI, Kirk tells Carol Marcus: "This sailor is in port for good. Take a good look at my retirement pay if you don't believe me. I can hardly afford to cross the street."
So yeah, I think it's a safe assumption that they had some sort of monetary or credit exchange on TOS. And Starfleet officers definitely draw some sort of salary and are allowed to make financial transactions on behalf of Starfleet or the Federation.
The lonely alien doesn't have much to do unless it's learn to be less lonely.
Although I can 100% see Odo being asexual demiromantic.
"Interstellar" is the word. Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. "Intergalactic" means 'between different galaxies.' For referring to something within our galaxy, "interstellar" is the correct word, meaning 'between stars.' (Or even "intragalactic" will work, meaning 'within a galaxy').
It's like calling traveling from New York to New Jersey "international."
Hey, I live in New Jersey and it absolutely feels like that sometimes.It's like calling traveling from New York to New Jersey "international."
"Interstellar" is the word. Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. "Intergalactic" means 'between different galaxies.' For referring to something within our galaxy, "interstellar" is the correct word, meaning 'between stars.' (Or even "intragalactic" will work, meaning 'within a galaxy').
It's like calling traveling from New York to New Jersey "international."
Wikipedia tells me that there are currently about 35 known satellite galaxies to the Milky Way, the nearest being 25,000 light years away (much closer than Voyager's endpoint). The first episode of Star Trek ever told us about the "Vernal Galaxy", which included the Talos Star Group which we now know is also in the Alpha Quadrant of the Milky Way, so the Vernal must be an even closer satellite that has almost merged into the Milky Way. Novels even feature Federation exploration of the Magellanic Clouds.
So, contrary to popular belief, I think "intergalactic" is an appropriate label for Star Trek space travel. Barely.
Me too!Hey, I live in New Jersey and it absolutely feels like that sometimes.
Crossing the Hudson IS like visiting a foreign land.
My wife always told me that Janeway's Iron Bun would require more than one person to manage every morning.
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