Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x08 - "Broken Pieces"

[DaveyNY]

I didn't see any evidence of that in the show.

Isn't it kinda-sorta obvious at this point, he didn't create Dajh/Soji at the Star Fleet Labs and the only other place mentioned so far where he could have possibly accomplised anything like that is Capalius.
We've all assumed that he built them, but nothing he said or has shown to have done, really indicates that he did.

 

[Tuskin38]

Isn't it kinda-sorta obvious at this point, he didn't create Dajh/Soji at the Star Fleet Labs and the only other place mentioned so far where he could have possibly accomplised anything like that is Capalius.
We've all assumed that he built them, but nothing he said or has shown to have done, really indicates that he did.

I mean, the Soji's triplets are based off Data's painting.
He was also the one who sent Soji and Dahj out to investigate the attack on Mars and the banning of Synths.

 

[Racefuel]

He is motivating, hence the sentence “motivating narrative tool”. He just has no personal stake. When this is over how will Picard be changed? What will he learn? Not in a mechanical, factual way. On a personal level.

This is his quest to deal with his unresolved guilt over Data's death and his lack of purpose after leaving Starfleet.

 

[Mark 2000]

All things that were added into the programming of your computer after the fact of its basic set up and have to be asked for at some point.

Sure. Whatever technobabble you need to invent to make it work for you.

 

[Tuskin38]

Sure. Whatever technobabble you need to invent to make it work for you.

They didn't invent anything. It's true.

 

[DaveyNY]

I mean, the Soji's triplets are based off Data's painting.
He was also the one who sent Soji and Dahj out to investigate the attack on Mars and the banning of Synths.

But it could have all been done on Capalius with the help of the preexisting Androids.

They did send out the Two who met with Rios and Captain Vandermeer earlier.

 

[Gonzo]

I'm really curious to see Soji's "homeworld" next week. Discovering Rios met her doppelganger nine years ago - along with another synth - means there's a whole civilization of them. How the heck did Maddox accomplish this all by his lonesome? Why did he even have a "lab" in the Federation if he had access to that stuff? Something doesn't quite add up.

He clearly didn't, or he must have had some serious help.

Highly likely that it was already there and he happened upon them, which makes me wonder if Soong did the same.

I was never convinced that Maddox was the maker of Soji and Dahj.

 

[DaveyNY]

Sure. Whatever technobabble you need to invent to make it work for you.

??????
Exactly what "Technobabble" have I used?

Lovely, another case of someone being overtly dismissive because their point is easily disproved.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

He is motivating, hence the sentence “motivating narrative tool”. He just has no personal stake. When this is over how will Picard be changed? What will he learn? Not in a mechanical, factual way. On a personal level.

Off the top of my head...

- come to terms with his guilt over data's death by saving his daughter/ brethren
- connecting to people after being rather lonely/ standoffish with most people
- trying to make right things that went wrong because of his decisions in the past, like maybe next season helping Romulans, both on a grand and small scale
- one last hurrah before he dies, after wasting away 15 years in his vinyard.
- Oh yeah, and helping the Federation return to its values.

Not quite nothing.

 

[Gonzo]

Episode 9 trailer

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It looked like the La Sirena was going down at the end of that trailer.

Rios is going to need another ship.

 

[Gonzo]

Just how much autonomy do the Zhat Vash have? Because I highly doubt the Romulan Praetor, Senate, or even the Tal Shiar will willingly fund the Zhat Vash to doom their own homeworld over a fairytale.

The Tal Shiar and Romulan government probably don't realise they are being manipulated, just like Starfleet and the Federation.

 

[Racefuel]

Off the top of my head...

- come to terms with his guilt over data's death by saving his daughter/ brethren
- connecting to people after being rather lonely/ standoffish with most people
- trying to make right things that went wrong because of his decisions in the past, like maybe next season helping Romulans, both on a grand and small scale
- one last hurrah before he dies, after wasting away 15 years in his vinyard.
- Oh yeah, and helping the Federation return to its values.

Not quite nothing.

I feel like I just read the same variations that doom clock and comic book guy vomit out about these shows.

People seem to expect Picard to ride into victory like he took the E-E to defeat the Borg in FC and that was *never* going to happen

 

[Tuskin38]

It looked like the La Sirena was going down at the end of that trailer.

Rios is going to need another ship.

Spoiler

It looks like they're wrapped up in that organic thing, it will probably be mostly fine

 

[DaveyNY]

It looked like the La Sirena was going down at the end of that trailer.

Rios is going to need another ship.

I pointed out earlier that the Flower Satellite appears to envelope the La Sirena and then crashes into the atmosphere.

Spoiler

The ship looses all it's power and everything goes dark, even with the bridge window open to the nearby sun...

 

[Crewman6]

Everything on the Borg cube was (predictably) awful.

The rest of the episode was pretty good. Great showcase for Rios and Raffi.

A couple of dumb moments (predictably), and the holo joke is really getting played out.

But mostly a solid episode. I enjoyed it!

 

[Crewman6]

He clearly didn't, or he must have had some serious help.

Highly likely that it was already there and he happened upon them, which makes me wonder if Soong did the same.

I was never convinced that Maddox was the maker of Soji and Dahj.

Nothing in the episode contradicts that Maddox made them.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

What will he learn?

How to lead when he doesn't have a state-of-the-art, armed-to-the-teeth, research and diplomacy machine backing up his every word.

He will learn how to make a difference even when he is old and feeble.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

How to lead when he doesn't have a state-of-the-art, armed-to-the-teeth, research and diplomacy machine backing up his every word.

Or a disciplined crew who (mostly) obey the command structure...

 

[DaveyNY]

Nothing in the episode contradicts that Maddox made them.

True,

Spoiler

but the preview trailer for the next episode pretty much indicates that he didn't do it on his own.

 

[Racefuel]

How to lead when he doesn't have a state-of-the-art, armed-to-the-teeth, research and diplomacy machine backing up his every word.

He will learn how to make a difference even when he is old and feeble.

This.

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