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Star Trek Picard is not Star Trek

Trek is absolutely not "generic sci if"...it's a wonderfully flexible and unique universe and storytelling platform that can explore nearly infinite concepts and ideas.

I think sometimes it comes across that way.
Star Trek Beyond felt like a generic (sci-fi) Action film. The big bad villain wants to destroy things and just continue conflict. It's the motivations of a Saturday morning cartoon villain. TWOK was also good guy vs bad guy, but at least it was directly tied to a previous story from TOS, so you got the sense of this continuing saga and drama. Here, Edison was created and killed just for the purpose of this installment. I suppose it was a commentary on outdated notions of war and security compared to the aspirations for a better tomorrow but it was conveyed in the most simplistic way and buried under a very weak and average story, even by action movie standards.
I do like Jaylah and if they continue the Kelvin movie series I hope she's a member of the crew.

TOS films...first one was pure sci-fi to me, but I never saw 2001 so maybe it was a little derivative of that.
TWOK. More mainstream. Has the villain from before come back for revenge! But I liked how it was tied all the way back to the original series, and I thought the themes of dealing with death and loss were set up pretty well. I mostly appreciate the more soap-opera like drama of it, like the introduction of Spock's protege Saavik and a hinted at attraction between her and Kirk. I really wish Kirstie Alley would have been able to be a regular member of that crew.
TSFS. This was mainly just continuing the soap opera, a saga, and of course big bad villain wants death ray.

STB feels very similar to the approach of the TNG films. Installments that have no bearing on the previous or future films.
 
Frankly the last Klingon villain who even exuded genuine menace was Chang. T'Kuvma and L'Rell sure didn't even with their supposedly more intimidating makeup.
 
Frankly the last Klingon villain who even exuded genuine menace was Chang. T'Kuvma and L'Rell sure didn't even with their supposedly more intimidating makeup.
WRT T'Kuvma - it's hard to take him seriously with all those marbles he must have had in his mouth when he spoke.

WRT L'Rell - I also can't take a Klingon seriously whose battle cry was: "Call me MOTHER!"
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Yeah, even the Klingons in ENT were more intimidating than DSC's. Klaang was kinda creepy.
 
Yeah, even the Klingons in ENT were more intimidating than DSC's. Klaang was kinda creepy.

No. I have to seriously disagree with you here. In "Lethe", when Cornwell is "greeted" by them, that's the scariest the Klingons have felt since TMP. Period. We'll have to agree to disagree on this.

The only time a Berman Era Klingon (the whole thing, not just ENT) ever actually felt even remotely imposing was when they had a basketball player playing a Klingon in "Gambit". That's it. And that's only because he was seven feet tall, towered over Worf, and wasn't much for words.
 
Scariest Klingon is "Hauled away as garbage" guy.

He was the most TNG Era-like of the TOS Klingons with the exceptions of the ones in "Day of the Dove." Michael Pataki nailed the personality of a thuggish Klingon who bullies others and starts fights with a sneer on his face. Korax was years ahead of his time as a Klingon. No honor. No higher purpose other than serving his Captain and ship. A real douchenozzle whose only purpose was to drink and start trouble.

He was a complete and total jerk and the ideal Klingon when it came to aggressive demeanor.
 
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