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Star Trek Picard is not Star Trek
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What an incredibly sad person you are. I;ve been a trekkie for over 30 years since I first saw TNG.Have seen all the TV shows and movies. I've said it already on Twitter that
1) All the trek shows are generally very different (DS9's different from TNG, e.g.)
2) All tv shows evolve and change to suit their own individual eras.
3) if you're expecting all the newer incarnations of trek to be exactly the same as what you remember from growing up, then you ARE going to be disappointed for the second reason I already stated above.
Too much emphasis has been placed on the current aesthetics and the way that these shows and movies since 2009 have looked. As long as these newer versions of Trek stay true to the core philosophy of Star Trek, then they're Star Trek and people just need to get over that fact.
1) All the trek shows are generally very different (DS9's different from TNG, e.g.)
2) All tv shows evolve and change to suit their own individual eras.
3) if you're expecting all the newer incarnations of trek to be exactly the same as what you remember from growing up, then you ARE going to be disappointed for the second reason I already stated above.
Too much emphasis has been placed on the current aesthetics and the way that these shows and movies since 2009 have looked. As long as these newer versions of Trek stay true to the core philosophy of Star Trek, then they're Star Trek and people just need to get over that fact.
Nepenthepolitan uses a different tomato.
A T'Mato. Vulcan hybrid from Tuvok Farms.
Aha, a johnny-come-lately!
My two cents (no one asked, but I like to pay ):
1. People often forget that Starfleet/Federation in TOS was far from perfect. The criticisms that Picard depicts the future of humanity as xenophobic and/or paranoid often seem to disregard how humanity regarded Klingons/Romulans in TOS.
2. The character of Picard written as a somewhat jaded, cynical shadow of his former officer-self is not all that different from how Kirk was written in the TOS-movies. Besides, the point of Picard is to show the character's growth (or regrowth, as it may be in this case) into the optimistic, capable leader that we know (and that he's forgotten) he can be. This is pretty much the exact same character arc that Kirk goes through in the movies. Nothing is more Star Trek than a character realizing his own flaws/mistakes and working to overcome them. It was the actual entire premise of TOS.
3. The criticisms of Oh and Starfleet leadership acting like asses forget how Cartwright and the Federation president acted in TUC. Career officers can make shady or questionable decisions if they think what they're doing is for "the greater good" of the organization. Let's not pretend like Starfleet/Federation leadership has been shown to be completely altruistic and morally upstanding all the time before this series.
):1. People often forget that Starfleet/Federation in TOS was far from perfect. The criticisms that Picard depicts the future of humanity as xenophobic and/or paranoid often seem to disregard how humanity regarded Klingons/Romulans in TOS.
2. The character of Picard written as a somewhat jaded, cynical shadow of his former officer-self is not all that different from how Kirk was written in the TOS-movies. Besides, the point of Picard is to show the character's growth (or regrowth, as it may be in this case) into the optimistic, capable leader that we know (and that he's forgotten) he can be. This is pretty much the exact same character arc that Kirk goes through in the movies. Nothing is more Star Trek than a character realizing his own flaws/mistakes and working to overcome them. It was the actual entire premise of TOS.
3. The criticisms of Oh and Starfleet leadership acting like asses forget how Cartwright and the Federation president acted in TUC. Career officers can make shady or questionable decisions if they think what they're doing is for "the greater good" of the organization. Let's not pretend like Starfleet/Federation leadership has been shown to be completely altruistic and morally upstanding all the time before this series.
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My two cents (no one asked, but I like to pay
1. People often forget that Starfleet/Federation in TOS was far from perfect. The criticisms that Picard depicts the future of humanity as xenophobic and/or paranoid often seem to disregard how humanity regarded Klingons/Romulans in TOS.
2. The character of Picard written as a somewhat jaded, cynical shadow of his former officer-self is not all that different from how Kirk was written in the TOS-movies. Besides, the point of Picard is to show the character's growth (or regrowth, as it may be in this case) into the optimistic, capable leader that we know (and that he's forgotten) he can be. This is pretty much the exact same character arc that Kirk goes through in the movies. Nothing is more Star Trek than a character realizing his own flaws/mistakes and working to overcome them. It was the actual entire premise of TOS.
3. The criticisms of Oh and Starfleet leadership acting like asses forget how Cartwright and the Federation president acted in TUC. Career officers can make shady or questionable decisions if they think what they're doing is for "the greater good" of the organization. Let's not pretend like Starfleet/Federation leadership has been shown to be completely altruistic and morally upstanding all the time before this series.
What did the Prez do??
We're on page 81...you may need to clarify which incredibly sad person you're addressing.
Not mount a rescue operation for Kirk because of practical political motives. “And he will save it again...by standing trial.”
It was actually one of the more iconic lines in the movie.
I would go as far as to say they need to clarify because we're on the trekbbs.
Oh wait, I'm supposed to discourage this. Please don't call people incredibly sad. Thanks.We're on page 81...you may need to clarify which incredibly sad person you're addressing.
Can we call them incredibly disenfranchised?
I mean they are saying that the rest of us aren't True Trek Fans.
That works better.
My two cents (no one asked, but I like to pay
1. People often forget that Starfleet/Federation in TOS was far from perfect. The criticisms that Picard depicts the future of humanity as xenophobic and/or paranoid often seem to disregard how humanity regarded Klingons/Romulans in TOS.
2. The character of Picard written as a somewhat jaded, cynical shadow of his former officer-self is not all that different from how Kirk was written in the TOS-movies. Besides, the point of Picard is to show the character's growth (or regrowth, as it may be in this case) into the optimistic, capable leader that we know (and that he's forgotten) he can be. This is pretty much the exact same character arc that Kirk goes through in the movies. Nothing is more Star Trek than a character realizing his own flaws/mistakes and working to overcome them. It was the actual entire premise of TOS.
3. The criticisms of Oh and Starfleet leadership acting like asses forget how Cartwright and the Federation president acted in TUC. Career officers can make shady or questionable decisions if they think what they're doing is for "the greater good" of the organization. Let's not pretend like Starfleet/Federation leadership has been shown to be completely altruistic and morally upstanding all the time before this series.
Another example of a Starfleet officer doing 'evil things' for the greater good is this one. Last time I checked "In the Pale Moonlight" remains one of the best-rated DS9 episode ever, because of the clash between Starfleet ideas and its immediate need (winning the Dominion War) featured in the episode:
He was right. The situation was incredibly fragile. Peace was more important then two SF officers.
Also i'm sure a 'rescue operation' would have been intentionally fouled up by all the neerdowells to make things worse.
I didn’t say it wasn’t right. It’s no more wrong than not giving Picard a ship to randomly indulge one of his pet projects, at least from the perspective of Starfleet C&C.
Or we can call it rampant mere-exposure effect and move on.
not making itup. True as i;m sitting here. I'm no millenial either.
Well, to be fair, he did have a spy from Kelva (in the Andromeda galaxy) infiltrating his crew and masquerading as his ship's doctor.
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