Spoilers Episode 7 "Nepenthe"
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I doubt it will happen.
It really depends on whether she will be essential to the next season or not, plus the potential for spin-offs.
It really wouldn't surprise me if she ends up in Starfleet alongside Rios and Raffi as a replacement for Data/Lore, assuming he doesn't pop up as Soji's father, whose face was blank in her flashback.
I do think that Rios ship could be sacrificed though.
It has been widely reported that the episode was accidentally dropped early in Japan, and subsequently yanked off by Amazon. And, if you read further through the thread, you'd also see others have posted more details on the episode.
This strongly fits with the rule of this show: Given all the options, put every character through the most dramatic option possible. Helping can't just be helping. It needs to be backed by dead sons or dead Borg sons. Turn that melodrama to 11!
Okay. I can't hold my tongue anymore. This is rich coming from someone with an avatar from the third season of Battlestar Galactica. If you want to talk about melodrama, if want to talk about "the most dramatic option possible", it doesn't get any worse than that. You're using a double-standard.
Dr. Gaius Baltar Band was the name we used for karaoke 10 years ago. The cylons most definitely didn't have a plan.
- How 'bout them Borgs now having teleporter technology that can beam them anywhere within 40,000 light years? That should speed up their assimilation plans and be pretty devastating for the galaxy.
Non-answer. Thanks. Karaoke's fun, though.
Agreed. Especially as we have Skynet future business in Discovery. I know Trek likes to copy from itself but copying themselves in real time on 2 concurrent series is a new low.
Why is new Star Trek now Terminator with a neverending future war against evil AI?
By the way, first Icheb and now Hugh? What is this, ex-Borg massacre? Is Seven of Nine next? We already know Picard probably is once Patrick moves on.
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Whataboutism doesn't negate the point he's making, to be frank.
It's not whataboutism. The worst possible things happened in the past, when Picard gave up. When Picard actually makes things happen, it won't be the worst possible things. The show started, chronologically, with things at their lowest point and is presumably on the way toward an upward trajectory. But nothing catastrophically bad can be fixed just like that.
I can see why having a Baltar avatar would make you think I love Battlestar. I haven't rewatched it since it aired. I loved season 1 and 2 at the time. It went downhill from there. Whatever I think of Battlestar has little to do with ST Picard. I really want to love Picard. Having a character kill a guy, and then just brushing over it the next episode is just so silly. Just one of many examples.
I can't take credit for the observation, but another comment I read elsewhere pointed out that we also have antagonists whose motives are as yet completely mysterious.
So, we've got heroes who have the most broad and simplistic motives possible, and villains/antagonists whose motives are a giant question mark. It's either over-explained or not explained at all.
It's starting to wear on my patience.
Pointing your finger at nuBSG is quite literally, whataboutism.
How will everyone respond to the scene after Picard leaves? You know...where RIker has his eye pulled out and then is forced to watch the Tal Shiar rape Troi?
Kidding of course.
Four items:
1. My assessment of the trajectory Picard is likely to take stands and I've provided the reasoning for that assessment.
2. I thought someone whose tastes I thought were "doom and gloom" ala BSG would have no problem a show like PIC, which has yet to reach the level of BSG. He's since clarified that he's not really a fan of BSG and he understood how I could misunderstand. I consider that misunderstanding to be resolved.
2A. Despite having said that, I think it's inherently unfair to be okay with BSG doing something but then panning PIC for doing something along the same lines but not as extreme. Double-standards are wrong. Across the board. But this turned out to not be the case here. So it's a non-issue.
3. Judging by the likes I received, I was only voicing what a lot of people seemed to also be wondering about. But again, this a resolved issue.
4. I'm not interested in constant "No I wasn't!" "Yes you were!" "No I wasn't!" "Yes you were!" back-and-forth. Again, I misunderstood, he explained, that's good enough for me.
I already gave a like to his earlier post explaining the situation. But just to tie this into a neat little bow...
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Not a problem. Apologies for the misunderstanding.
Not really.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Spatial_trajector
The spatial trajector was a technology utilized by the Sikarians, a species native to the Delta Quadrant, which allowed them to transport to planets up to forty thousand light years away. Operating on the principle of folding space, the trajector utilized antineutrinos as a catalyst for the space-folding process. It then created a neutrino envelope around the object or person to be transported, and used Sikaris' mantle of tetrahedral quartz to focus and amplify the trajector field. This limitation meant that the trajector could only be used on or near the planet itself.
Unless the Borg has "Dr. Who" tech where it's bigger on the inside then on the outside, I doubt they're hiding a Planet's Mantle worth of Tetrahedral Quartz to use as a focus/amplifying component in the Trajector field. Ergo logic dictates that the range of the Spatial Trajector on the Borg cube should be significantly limited compared to the original version.
If I was to guess, the original Spatial Trajector without the Tetrahedral Quartz to Focus/Amplify the trajector field, the Spatial Trajector would probably be limited to ~1 ly. Which is still orders of magnitude better range than current transporters of the 24th century which had a range of ~40,000 km. If the borg had some significant amount of Tetrahedral Quartz, let's say a very large High School Gymnasium size full of that stuff, they might be able to enhance the range to ~10 ly. Which is amazing, better than SubSpace Transport with a Homing Transponder. But still not enough to fully rely on this system since if you transport anybody that far, your ship won't be there for backup. The transportee will be alone.
And Borg Drones are far from invulnerable. So the Borg Queen having one of these as a escape method in her chamber makes sense.
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The Borg could have also found a way around that limitation.
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