Battlestar Galactica getting rebooted (again) for NBS's streaming service

[saddestmoon]

The angels of the cylon god are head 6 and Head Baltar.

The Angels of the Cylon God were manipulating the Cylons, and manipulating the humans, to get them to bang, and make babies on Earth II because as it stood they were all doomed.

I understood that to be the case (in regards to Six and Baltar) but my question was actually around Starbuck herself - who wasn’t in anyone characters head, as such (seen by multiple characters in the Fleet, etc).

She wasn’t revealed to be anything Cylon, from what I’m remembering.... so was she supposed to be a literal angelic being, sent from who (One or all of the Pantheistic gods of the 12 human colonies)?

edit: had to do some referring to Wikipedia, I now recall: she came back with a brand-spanking new Viper, which seems at odds with the bones / remains the fleet found, as well as the burned out wreckage of her Viper (which exploded killing her).

All coming back to me now! Need to do a rewatch!

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Gods of Kobol were Human.

Humans live and die.

Only the 13th Colony, who went to Earth 1 were robots.

The Cylon God is not working with the Cylons.

They are two camps with their own plans.

 

[theenglish]

edit: had to do some referring to Wikipedia, I now recall: she came back with a brand-spanking new Viper, which seems at odds with the bones / remains the fleet found, as well as the burned out wreckage of her Viper (which exploded killing her).

All coming back to me now! Need to do a rewatch!

And she just disappeared at the end. I always thought that she was meant to be something angelic--non-Cylon.

 

[Saul]

And she just disappeared at the end. I always thought that she was meant to be something angelic--non-Cylon.

That part always annoys me. For a show so against having aliens appear it did weird stuff like that.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Starbuck's dad was a Cylon.

She is connected.

 

[DigificWriter]

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That part always annoys me. For a show so against having aliens appear it did weird stuff like that.

Not expecting BSG to deal with concepts like angels is silly given the beliefs of the man who originally created the franchise and how significantly he based the concept on those beliefs.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Starbuck's dad was a Cylon.

She is connected.

The one Daniel they missed?

 

[DigificWriter]

The theory that Starbuck's father was a Cylon was debunked shortly after it first surfaced online.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Seriously? The Plan movie was clearly tacked on at the end with several retcons just to give some semblance of the Cylons having a plan.

The point of The Plan was that the plan was doomed to begin with because all the cylons tasked to execute it would have always fallen in love with humans.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

The theory that Starbuck's father was a Cylon was debunked shortly after it first surfaced online.

Where was it debunked? I mean, it is only a theory since they never showed anyone we knew to be Daniel.

The phantom piano player certainly felt like it was meant to be Kara's father.

Another missed opportunity. They could have had the same guy playing Daniel in a flashback.

 

[DigificWriter]

Where was it debunked? I mean, it is only a theory since they never showed anyone we knew to be Daniel.

RDM addressed the theory in the official podcast for the episode "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" and said it had no validity and was not something the writers were doing. He also clarified that Daniel had no narrative importance beyond being the "Abel" to John Cavil's "Cain".

He normally didn't comment on speculations or fan theories, but was motivated to do so in this particular case in order to head off angry overreactions come the BSG series finale.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

RDM addressed the theory in the official podcast for the episode "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" and said it had no validity and was not something the writers were doing. He also clarified that Daniel had no narrative importance beyond being the "Abel" to John Cavil's "Cain".

He normally didn't comment on speculations or fan theories, but was motivated to do so in this particular case in order to head off angry overreactions come the BSG series finale.

Well, head off some of the angry overreactions....

I was never angry, but it was anti-climactic for me. Still one of my top 5 shows in the last 20 years.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Maybe Daniel was "He Who Should Not Be Named" from The Book of Pythia. Why the fuck not? Never mattered much anyway, apparently.

 

[Noname Given]

That part always annoys me. For a show so against having aliens appear it did weird stuff like that.

It was probably done as an homage/callback to the "Ship Of Light" beings in the original BSG1978. IE - Somehow 'Starbuck' was one of those beings (or something like that).

 

[DigificWriter]

Well, head off some of the angry overreactions....

I was never angry, but it was anti-climactic for me. Still one of my top 5 shows in the last 20 years.

I should've specified "angry overreactions come the finale regarding the complete unimportance of either Daniel or Starbuck's father".

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I should've specified "angry overreactions come the finale regarding the complete unimportance of either Daniel or Starbuck's father".

I was fairly certain that's what you meant

I still have my own head-canon that the piano player was, at least, Kara's father, if not #7. But to me it would have made sense if he was #7 what with the whole Cylon projection aspect.

You'd think there would be a very interesting story behind the whole line being boxed long ago. It might have made a better film than The Plan.

 

[DigificWriter]

I still have my own head-canon that the piano player was, at least, Kara's father

That's not "headcanon"; it's actual Canon.

The thing about that, though, is that he was only important for Starbuck as a vision.

 

[Mr Awe]

I loved RDM's take on BSG. So, in some ways, I'm glad it builds on that. However, I'm hoping it's not just some fill in the blank, we haven't covered such and such time period, so we'll fill in that gap. I'm hopeful it's set in our future where humans are again on the run from the machine and perhaps some intrepid archeologist in space finds that this isn't the first time it has happened. Kind of a space Indiana Jones finds evidence of RDM's series as humans once again run from the Cylons.

I don't know. Just hoping not a gap filling type of series.

 

[Guy Gardener]

RDM addressed the theory in the official podcast for the episode "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" and said it had no validity and was not something the writers were doing. He also clarified that Daniel had no narrative importance beyond being the "Abel" to John Cavil's "Cain".

He normally didn't comment on speculations or fan theories, but was motivated to do so in this particular case in order to head off angry overreactions come the BSG series finale.

Not canon.

All this means is that they accidentally said something that they had not intended to say, and now they want to roll it back years later.

If RDM wants to change canon, then he has to go full Lucas and make a special edition.

 

[The Wormhole]

That part always annoys me. For a show so against having aliens appear it did weird stuff like that.

The point was they were trying to against the space opera norm and be, dare I utter it, "anti-Trek." Refusing to have aliens and doing "weird stuff" that has no rational scientific explanation is how they accomplished those goals.