What you mean like an entire episode last week; and for the Gallifrey stuff the entire season give or take a few episodes?
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What you mean like an entire episode last week; and for the Gallifrey stuff the entire season give or take a few episodes?
The last humans - the ones that successfully made it through the Boundary, that is - are the first Time Lords. Is that what they're trying to tell us? 
Last week was a build up to a character. Then we are just randomly on an alien planet in the future after all the humans died. It just feels out of place.
However just finishing the episode. It was completely pointless. I wasted 70 minutes when I could have just watched like the last 5 minutes.
Also curious to how the other Doctor and Jack fit into this. I care more about that then a mean half Cyberman. I think the other doctor isn;t from an other dimension but another timeline.
Oh man an easy 8 for me. That was tense. I loved that they continued on with the lone Cyberman, not sure what was going on with the little Irish village there. I'm sure that will be explained but from near the end that looks like some kind of simulation or something with the equipment they had at the end.
I really liked the production values this episode it's like the BBC has really upped their game for Dr Who. Jodie was great as usual, and so were the companions. I'm predicting Ryan or Yaz will buy it next episode.
Loved the Master at the end. More please. I like this version.
How is the Doctor going to retrieve the TARDIS?
The other Doctor is from an aborted timeline, or an incarnation between the 2nd and 3rd Doctor.. That's been my thinking on her appearance.
I really liked the production values this episode it's like the BBC has really upped their game for Dr Who. Jodie was great as usual, and so were the companions. I'm predicting Ryan or Yaz will buy it next episode.
Loved the Master at the end. More please. I like this version.
How is the Doctor going to retrieve the TARDIS?
The other Doctor is from an aborted timeline, or an incarnation between the 2nd and 3rd Doctor.. That's been my thinking on her appearance.
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Fixed that for ya.
I gave this one a 9. However, the conclusion could alter that dramatically. But, I loved the dystopian future with humanity on the run. Just a few remnants of humans and Cybermen. I loved how the Doctor's defenses failed. She gave the Lone Cyberman what it wanted, so it shouldn't be easy. I did actually got a bit tired of Graham and his "sunshine" stuff. A little over done. But, good stuff overall. Escaping the colony. Surviving on the life boat. Finding Cyber Carrier.
Curious about the character who didn't die. Thought he was a Time Lord at first. But, alas he should've regenerated. At one point, I thought he was going to be Shamus at the Boundary, but that doesn't seem to be it either. Shamus might well be a Time Lord. Maybe the boundary only reactions to Time Lords?
Really curious to see how it will play. Hopefully, Jo Doctor comes into play. Bit too much of a tease not to, really.
Curious about the character who didn't die. Thought he was a Time Lord at first. But, alas he should've regenerated. At one point, I thought he was going to be Shamus at the Boundary, but that doesn't seem to be it either. Shamus might well be a Time Lord. Maybe the boundary only reactions to Time Lords?
Really curious to see how it will play. Hopefully, Jo Doctor comes into play. Bit too much of a tease not to, really.
An 8 from me, he isn't really the last cyberman if there are still shiploads of them floating about dormant.
Did anyone else think the ruins were meant to be the Irish village?
Was Brendan a timeless child being mindwiped or about to be cyberconverted.
Why didn't his father get any older, too many questions.
Next weeks episode has a lot of work to do.
Did anyone else think the ruins were meant to be the Irish village?
Was Brendan a timeless child being mindwiped or about to be cyberconverted.
Why didn't his father get any older, too many questions.
Next weeks episode has a lot of work to do.
Oh I hadn't thought of that but yeah that did remind me of the Irish village from those other scenes now you mention it.
Something from next week I picked up on . At Childhoods End... ACE
Anyone else notice the moment when Graham seemed to say "I'm the doc...I'm the most normal bloke you'll ever meet."
Also if they're going to suggest there have been humans on Gallifrey for some time is Chibnall finally going to reconcile the "Half human on my mother's side" comment?
Also if they're going to suggest there have been humans on Gallifrey for some time is Chibnall finally going to reconcile the "Half human on my mother's side" comment?
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I hoped somebody else had noticed that "pause".
Ok so here's my theory: These humans unwittingly create the first Cyberman (the experiment we see on Brendan is the first Cyberconversion) and fighting a war of attrition and extermination with them. The human survivors who flee through the portal end up in the distant past of Gallifrey and became the first Time Lords. Perhaps they subjugate the native Gallifreyans or maybe they intermarry with them or both? Maybe the first Time Lords were actually half human and half gallifreyan? Also, maybe they wiped the memories of the first Time Lords to erase the truth of their hybrid origins in order to create the myth of the Time Lords?
If correct, I could definitely see that upending the conventional lore of the show. Although, it seems risky to me because it could potentially alienate fans.
If correct, I could definitely see that upending the conventional lore of the show. Although, it seems risky to me because it could potentially alienate fans.
The Orville actually did the flying heads thing first. So I guess the Doctor Who writers copied from The Orville writers.
Toclafane!
Yeah but the toclafane were heads hidden inside a drone, not actual flying heads like what the Orville did and what this episode did. So I think the Orville is a better comparison.
Still not crazy about this season. I suppose if I felt one iota of feelings about the Master or Gallifrey it would help. There's three cybermen chasing a handful of people through overly dark sets while Jodie can't park the TARDIS for a damn. 
Just not my cuppa...
Just not my cuppa...I thought it seemed familiar and that I had forgotten an episode where they did that but that's probably where I'm remembering it from.
Surely the cybermen helmets all have/had heads inside them too.
Yeah, but the drones look like metal heads just like in the orville. All I am saying that the Kaylon drones and the Cyber drones look very similar in design.
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