Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x05 - "Stardust City Rag"

[DaveyNY]

whatever i guess no one cares about the opinion of gay southern hick i hate being ganged up on in threads im done for real

Your being Gay or from the South has absolutely nothing to do with it.
That was just not an appropriate term to use around here.

Besides the fact that it doesn't in any way, fit the situation we are talking about.

Explore the words you wish use before hand, just tossing something like that out without understanding its actual context is destined to make life difficult no matter where you are.


BTW: Just so you know, one of my brother's is a 'Southern Hick" State Trooper, so I certainly have no bias against you or anyone else from that part of the country.

 

[Captain Killy]

Here’s my question: So Jay is making a living harvesting Borg components from liberated drones and selling them on the black market right? Where are all these liberated drones coming from? Every Borg cube that’s invaded Federation space has gotten blowed up. The only one to ever survive is the artifact. So are all these harvested Borg coming from off that? How many ex-drones could there possibly be living in the Alpha Quadrant. Was there another invasion post Endgame we don’t know about yet?

 

[Nerys Myk]

whatever i guess no one cares about the opinion of gay southern hick i hate being ganged up on in threads im done for real

It a discussion board. We're discussing. You say X. We respond with Y. More than one person disagreeing with you is not "ganging up". And your orientation and location has nothing to do with it

 

[fireproof78]

whatever i guess no one cares about the opinion of gay southern hick i hate being ganged up on in threads im done for real

None of those things were relevant to the discussion at hand.

 

[Captain Killy]

A week ago, i would have said, "No, that's too stupid an idea."

After episode 5, all bets are off. The stupid apparently has no bottom.

Why is that stupid? Dahj and Soji are organic synths and the only species we’ve seen in Trek able to bond organic components to Soong Type androids are the Borg.

 

[Captain Killy]

Speaking of Quark, how could they go through all the trouble of name dropping him in the episode, and even calling that bar they were in "Quark's" and NOT have Quark himself in the episode?! That would've been such a great cameo!

Cuz they’re not doing cameos just for the sake of doing cameos. Which is totally the right call. That said, I would have appreciated a Holo-Morn.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Why is that stupid? Dahj and Soji are organic synths and the only species we’ve seen in Trek able to bond organic components to Soong Type androids are the Borg.

Yep. That's called using the tools in the tool box.

 

[Tuskin38]

but the question is will it have a good purpose maybe but im pessmistic

Clearly you didn't watch the whole episode then.

 

[Captain Killy]

I enjoyed watching the episode for the most part but the scenes with Icheb and Maddox fell flat considering they easily could have gotten the actual actors to reprise their roles.

Also I know it's still early to judge this season but I'm disappointed at how dystopian it all is. That's not really what I enjoy in Star Trek. :/

How exactly is it dystopian? People keep saying it, but no ones citing evidence to back it up, Reminder: Freecloud is NOT a Federation world. Vashti and the Ranger‘s territory is not in Federation space. If you’re calling PIC dystopian because of some lawless frontier planets outside of/on the ragged edge of the Federation, then TNG must be Dystopian because they went to Tasha Year’s home planet or Star Trek: The Final Frontier took place on Nimbus III or ENT was dystopian because of the Borderlands.

 

[Crewman6]

Cuz they’re not doing cameos just for the sake of doing cameos. Which is totally the right call. That said, I would have appreciated a Holo-Morn.

Seven of Nine was absolutely a cameo for cameo's sake. It was utterly forced and unnecessary.

 

[fireproof78]

How exactly is it dystopian? People keep saying it, but no ones citing evidence to back it up, Reminder: Freecloud is NOT a Federation world. Vashti and the Ranger‘s territory is not in Federation space. If you’re calling PIC dystopian because of some lawless frontier planets outside of/on the ragged edge of the Federation, then TNG must be Dystopian because they went to Tasha Year’s home planet or Star Trek: The Final Frontier took place on Nimbus III or ENT was dystopian because of the Borderlands.

Is "dystopian" becoming short hand for "not real Star Trek?"

Because, you are absolutely right. There were plenty of colony worlds that were not the utopian Earth like setting. Yar had a terrible life, as you note, the whole situation with the Maquis, and frontier worlds.

I think there needs to be a distinction made regarding the show showing us non-Federation worlds as less than perfect and the Federation itself.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

People who didn't like the gore or violence... I'm wondering if they forgot some of TNG. A character is split in half on screen after phase shifting through the floor, Riker/Picard explodes a guys head with their phasers, Riker's arm is surgically removed and reattached, Tasha randomly killed out of nowhere, Data was about to kill a guy and more.

I didn’t have a problem with it necessarily but I won’t pretend graphically torturing a guy and the way it’s presented is absolutely equal to how previous series handled it. It’s not all binary, all violence or rainbows and bunnies, there’s certainly different degrees. And people certainly complained with Conspiracy at the least.

 

[Captain Killy]

but most of those were characters with no real back story glorified extras

Icheb’s actor (who’s apparently kinda a scumbag) may have considered his character Voyager’s version of Nog, but I know Nog, and Icheb was no Nog.

 

[Hoser]

Juts for the record I still think what they did to Icheb was horrible and i hate it

I feel the same way. I think I rewatch all of Trek from TOS-VOY once a year, so seeing a not so happy ending tacked to his story kinda stings.
And Seven's as well.
I came into this show wondering if they'd touch on anyone from DS9/VOY, now I'm just hoping this was all, because there doesn't seem to be much hope left. Heck, I was a little scared for a few seconds that Deanna Troi was now some kind of crime lord

I did enjoy seeing a future bar where people dress like they're in an MMO. And for a few seconds the crew were in a good place.

 

[DaveyNY]

Seven of Nine was absolutely a cameo for cameo's sake. It was utterly forced and unnecessary.

Except for the fact that she and Jean-Luc have a real emotional (and physical) connection due to both being Assimilated and coming back during the same time period.

But of course that's just a gratuitous use of major aspects of both the characters lives and means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Especially since those story lines were just one-off tales, destined never to be explored again during their individual shows.
Never mind twenty plus years later.

 

[Captain Killy]

Seven of Nine was absolutely a cameo for cameo's sake. It was utterly forced and unnecessary.

Seven’s appearance isn’t a cameo...

 

[sevenstars]

Every thread is in danger of not becoming a Star Trek thread

Every thread is in danger of becoming a not Star Trek thread.

 

[The Old Mixer]

heh ... I've begun to go through old TV shows I saw as a kid as well.

Right now I'm on a Binge-Watch of "THAT GIRL" on Amazon Prime.
Also looking for episodes of "Nanny & the Professor" as well as "The Flying Nun".

Liked for...

God I genuinely dislike star wars even the originals

UNLIKE! UNLIKE!

Here’s my question: So Jay is making a living harvesting Borg components from liberated drones and selling them on the black market right? Where are all these liberated drones coming from? Every Borg cube that’s invaded Federation space has gotten blowed up. The only one to ever survive is the artifact. So are all these harvested Borg coming from off that? How many ex-drones could there possibly be living in the Alpha Quadrant. Was there another invasion post Endgame we don’t know about yet?

Are you trying to steer this thread back on topic? [Checks rules to see if that's allowed.]

Seven of Nine was absolutely a cameo for cameo's sake. It was utterly forced and unnecessary.

Having an entire episode focused on you is not a cameo.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Seven of Nine was absolutely a cameo for cameo's sake. It was utterly forced and unnecessary.

Nope.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Seven of Nine was absolutely a cameo for cameo's sake. It was utterly forced and unnecessary.

Not a cameo. She was a full fledged guest star. McCoy in "Encounter At Farpoint" is a cameo. Quark in "Caretaker" is a cameo. When your character is the focus of the plot you're not doing a cameo.
The Borg figure in the over all plot of the series. Seven of Nine is the most famous Borg in the franchise. Seems like a natural fit storywise.