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Its highly likely that something or someone will wake that cube up, if only for long enough to help Picard escape with Soji and maybe Hugh.
I suspect that Picard will not be happy going back inside one again.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x05 - "Stardust City Rag"
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I suspect that Picard will not be happy going back inside one again.
Why not? We are talking about a show set in a future of humanity where living past 100 is a part of routine life. As well as alien couplings.
Not sure what "ism" Trek adding to but diversity in relationships should be explored too, I think.
No, of course not.
None of you signed consent forms
I thought Picard's admission that decades after his brief assimilation that he was not 'fully human' was a powerful moment in the episode. This is one episode that I wish had been broken into two, there was a lot of dramatic potential in the main and sub-plots.
Exactly. The whole story sets up Dahj/Soji as nuBSG cylon style meat robots.
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It will probably come up more once he is near or on-board the cube.
Raffi's "reason for coming" was also a great moment. There was so much latent pain in that scene. I wonder if her Son chose a life with a Vulcan because he admired their logical thinking, and aversion to conspiracy theories.
That little bit was probably the most solid performance in the show so far
Maybe deborgified Lt Hawk will be there to meet him "O hai captain. I floated around as a frozen drone for 300 years before the Romulans picked me up and put me here. Just to add to your crushing guilt. Lynch is around here too, he says hello."
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Probably but it looks like they are just a means to an end, Maddox said he created them to solve the big conspiracy, most likely the same one that cost Raffi her career and sobriety.
It was! So tantalizing... there is some serious acting talent on this show, I do hope at some point they bring it all together (Laris, Seven, Picard, Jurati, Raffi)
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I miss Laris already.
Just imagine the opportunity for one liners once they are on that Borg cube.
I'm pretty sure Pel was Romulan as she had the bumpy foreheads and tng Romulan bowl cut. But I agree with you on Raffi. Michelle hurd was fantastic in this scene. After Icheb, this had me tearing up again.
Honestly it fell flat to me. Maybe because of watching Voyager where assimilation became so routine even Janeway, Torres and Tuvok had a go at it (albeit with Borg collective blocking meds).
The main reason Picard's claim his humanity still feels incomplete felt flat is because in this show alone (and even its first episode) we've seen Picard act more human than he ever did in TNG where he was always the stern captain, even before his assimilation in Seasons 1-3. Picard was friendly and chatty with Elnor, Dahj on her first visit, etc. all which took place long after his assimilation. He's on good terms with his Romulan housemates and loves his dog. Sounds very, very human to me. Yeah he was in hiding for a while but he knew people hated him and he came out of hiding the first moment he was asked by Dahj. That shows him as more human, not less.
I'd much, much rather have an Earl Grey Tea with Picard show Picard than Season 1 TNG Picard.
You'd have a better job convincing the audience that it was, say, reclusive Luke Skywalker in the the Last Jedi who had his humanity damaged, and refused to leave even after Chewie and R2 begged him to and being told Han died.
I think the focus on mythology was the key to it. Possibly that Romulan researcher, prior to her assimilation figured out that embedded in the stories of Romulan origins is the actual truth of how they came about. I think that truth is that Romulans are synths. Possibly that knowledge causes a mental break. Not necessarily because it would be shocking to learn that about yourself and your people, but maybe they were designed that way. To "shut down" or suffer a mental/cognitive breakdown if they ever become aware of what they are. That sounds odd, but I think that is the way this will go.
Maddox put her and other ingredients in a version of that spinning android-maker from “What Are Little Girls Made Of?" he'd modified to output two altered women at at time.
Come to think of it, that planet's inhabitants where wiped out in a synth revolt...
You may be right, and yes the agony that came through Michelle Hurd's entire soul was masterful.
That is unfair. A lot of getting a substantial role is sheer luck. Lots of great actors don't land parts for a lot of reasons. He could be a great actor and still not have landed enough parts to make staying in the biz viable. That they didn't bother even screen-testing him is odd.
Back to the episode...
Another fetch quest. Next week: fetch Soji!
I'm not a fan of explicit body horror, which too much media has latched onto. It's as lazy as a laugh track. I nearly turned the episode off because of it.
Freecloud's exterior was awful. It was woefully unconvincing CGI. It also was borrrrring in design.
The lack of imaginative design and costuming in the club is emblematic of this show: everything looks like today or yesterday (except with haptic interfaces). Pinstripes? Pimp hats? You can evoke a noir without caricaturing it.
As to the Jurati–Maddox age difference, yeah, it's a tired TV trope to have the younger woman with the older man and rarely the reverse. It's also a lazy writing trick: that characters must be related to or romantically involved with one another for a betrayal to work. OTOH there are plenty May-December romances out there, even if they are a vast minority, and uniformly characterizing calling them as "ew" is kinda ageist.
Strange or not, it's what we're supposed to believe according to TOS.