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What do you mean by a m?Even if they suspected she was a m
What do you mean by a m?Even if they suspected she was a m
Bong!What do you mean by a m?
Is there a good source to read what exactly he wrote or said, with context?I'm really glad the show didn't cast him. I don't care how many times he now claims "I didn't mean it when I sided with Spacey, I didn't have enough information at the time" (like, dude, the info about what Spacey is like was out there, had been out there for many years, and the way he tried to slam Anthony Rapp down for speaking up REALLY didn't set well with me AT ALL).
It's fine if it's genuinely motivated by the story. I liked it when they used the gore to show the transwarp malfunction in DIS episode 3 - that's how something like that should look like. This level of violence is appropriate when the story is actually about such violence. But I hate this level of vileness to be used as a cold opening just to grab attention.
I don't know...Star Trek has had some weird scenes...
Ugh, I can't stand this scene to this day!
Conspiracy was my first Trek episode, and I was 7 or 8. If they hadn't cut that scene, I wouldn't have become a fan that day and would've avoided Trek for years...It also makes Trek less accessible for kids. Many of us, including myself, came to Trek as a kid. If this stuff were showing during my childhood, I wouldn't have watched it.
Is it the first time they showed that Borg implants are considered so valuable? Or is it something that they already established in past series/movies?
maybe. it was Voyager, though, so I can't remember. Was the problem solved by reversing the polarity of the deflector dish, a nebula and Janeway's caffeine addiction?
The Ferengi even went through some insane geodesic-fold-on-a-red-giant-technotrouble (easily topping any deflector polarity reversals) to get her nanoprobes XD*why* are people like Seven's lover so interested in Borg implants? for the tech or for trophies?
Did Paris work with Armstrong and Cochrane? Did Stamets work with Musk?but which Soong did Maddox and Agnes work with? Can't be Dr Soong... I'm still thinking Lore, since we were only told he was disassembled, and even if so, where would the bits be sent...? The Daystrom Institute perhaps? Or is there just a human Soong grandkid somewhere?
And she doesn't wanna smell like a smoker when she meets her son to tell him she's clean!She doesn't want to breathe his second-hand smoke.
It only saddens me cause I live and work close to him and would wanna talk to him about it :/I think the reaction by some to Maddox being recast was WAY over-the-top. Even for here.
At this point, it looks like they actually want to be outraged and find reasons to not like the show. This is show-business. Recasting happens. It's been going on for 100 years.
I noticed it in the previous episode as well, when Raffi was working on something at her stationAs a side note...
did anyone else notice the E-D bridge noises when Rios and Picard were talking about the cube?
the distinct, repetitive booping
He said he's not much of an actor when Bev wanted him to act in her play on TNGWe also learn that Picard’s acting skills are cringeworthy.
Maybe someone realized the main theme is Batai's melody XDOn the soundtrack for "The Inner light", the Ressikan flute music is called "Lullaby #1". I wonder where the music is heard in the episode.
Yes, his response seems to have been genuine. Was kinda sad to see him feeling left out, I was hoping he's just pretending :/I recall reading Brian Brophy was surprised when a fan told him about Bruce Maddox being in Picard (not a "No comment" kind of thing). Makes me think he wasn't even approached.
Who did they hate and still offer something?I'm just saying someone the producers HATED was at least offered the role again after bad blood had developed. Brophy was never reported to be at odds with anyone at the franchise.
All consenting adults have the right to fall in love and act on their emotions. "What makes you think you can dictate how people love each other?" - Soren, The OutcastI physically gagged. He’s not just a creepy old guy fetishizing a young woman. He’s her mentor. It had no impact on the later drama when she killed him. It was just pointlessly gross, like graphically pulling that kid’s eye out or having 7 shooting him while hugging. Everything is extreme on this show and to no real purpose.
You would prefer her to show up for no reason and disappear again with no further contribution? Imagine the outrage here XDThe extremely contrived coincidence of Seven just happening to show up at the time she'd be the perfect bargaining chip for Maddox.
The fact that Picard had Zhat Vash bodies (i.e. the one Agnes killed) and didn't have anyone tell an authority (Clancy, or someone) "Hey, here's proof of my so called conspiracy theories".
Since the authorities covered up the previous attacks, he can't trust them. They would've erased that evidence as well.The last one about Picard not telling about the last Zhat Vash attack and the bodies is a big deal. In the real world anyone would be saying, "Why didn't you give us this proof?" Keep in mind if Picard had done this, Maddox would likely still be alive.
As the sinistairrre frenchman? That's cause he's acting the part of a bad actor having to act.The only thing that felt uneven was some bits of Stewart's performance - but overall it was solid.
How did you feel about Picard and Riker murdering Remmick, Picard murdering Soran and the Borg queen, Sisko murdering Dukat, Janeway murdering the Borg queen, Picard murdering Shinzon?This episode featured three brutal murders and two of them were committed by our heroes.
Berman Trek composer Jay Chattaway got music credit for "Lullaby #2". Not sure what that is
George Lazenby.Who did they hate and still offer something?
So.. Had a thought... If bruce was at the bar for the past 2 weeks... Who in the hell is the wonder twins mom in the phone?? Thought it was Bruce.. But nope..
Possibly the music from the Inner Light that is in the intro?
but that credit was only in this episode
Why not launch it for the other captains too? Captain coupling isn't something that I think about too often, so I'll leave it to someone else to point out which captain had the most diverse love interests, but even Pike was tempted by a green woman in the pilot, and Kirk got flirty with a number of different races, including having the first interracial kiss (big for its time). Geordi presumably married a white woman and Worf a white Trill. The thing that stands out for Sisko and Jake is that although we don't know how many black aliens there are in the universe, there are fewer black actresses and it strikes me as icky having to pair them with black actresses if the concern is something as odious as miscegenation. It wouldn't be a problem for me if Jennifer or Cassidy or Fenna or Korena or Leanne or Kesha or maybe others too were black, or most if most of them were, but that all of them were? And that in the cases of Korena and Kesha, they were maybe the only black Bajorans with speaking parts? It doesn't seem right.
What got me wondering about this whole train of thought was that it seemed like all three characters were the identical or near identical color. It isn't that the actors were of the same or different racial backgrounds, and I appreciated his last name being Hwang and that Pel was Romulan (and further I appreciate the diversity of Romulans in this series in their different races and accents), but that the makeup department either didn't spring for different shades of makeup, or if someone chose to make their marriage more 'palatable' by suggesting hey they're of the same kind, well, that didn't sit right with me.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it and it was complete chance that all three actors were very similar in color, or that the makeup department is just cheap and actors of other races too are mis-shaded here and there. But I'm Greek and am slightly more beige than say a Frenchman who might me slightly darker than say a Norwegian, and we'd all need different makeup. At least if we're in more significant speaking roles.
I wonder if there are aliens who see white, black, brown, and Asian humans, and cry foul that three of them are canon violations?I can't see CBS Trek ever using a word like 'pink skins' to describe all of humankind like they did on Enterprise, without them using that word to mock or chide the character who utters it.
They brought back Del Arco, so I figure, why not.Finally I read all posts. Really, are people so surprised that they haven't offered the character of Maddox to a guy whose most important role in the last ten years was "Crime Scene Photographer"?
Most of the forum suspected as soon as she just happened to appear at the chateau in time to shoot that Romulan in the back.Even if they suspected she was a mole, they wouldn't necessarily have seen her murder of Maddox coming. Nobody here seemed to.
The "nobody here seemed to" was meant to apply only to the second part, that they wouldn't have seen her murder coming.Most of the forum suspected as soon as she just happened to appear at the chateau in time to shoot that Romulan in the back.
I think that Jurati feeling personally responsible for her role in Maddox's work is a major factor here. It's not necessarily a secret that would drive anyone to take such drastic measures.Does knowing the secret automatically make you Zhat Vash or whatever the Federation equivalent would be, is it literally the knowing that does it, it certainly would seem so based on Jurati's actions in the episode.
That's what the evidence is leading me to conclude to.
Agnes Jurati was probably convinced that Maddox was one of those unstoppable dreamers, who will stop at nothing to accomplish his goals, and Oh was probably right about that, given the success of Dhaj / Soji.
Picard is a boundless idealist, it shows in his StarFleet Record and his behavior. I think Oh made a judgement call based on what she knows about him and thinks he can't be turned to her side. At that point, Picard is considered an obstacle and liability.
They don't want the twins dead. Killing Dahj was a foul-up.They destroyed his lab and want his twins dead also
Fair enough but they should have been watching her after what happened at the chateau and Maddox should not have been left alone knowing what he knows.The "nobody here seemed to" was meant to apply only to the second part, that they wouldn't have seen her murder coming.
I think that Jurati feeling personally responsible for her role in Maddox's work is a major factor here. It's not necessarily a secret that would drive anyone to take such drastic measures.
Would Dahj have lived if Narek had been sent instead.They don't want the twins dead. Killing Dahj was a foul-up.
I don't think he'd have started shooting at her right off the bat. Rizzo does have Oh threatening to fry her butt if she doesn't get her mission accomplished.Would Dahj have lived if Narek had been sent instead.
I am not so sure that Dahj's death was really a mistake at all, something is really eating at Rizzo but not Narek.
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