Nitpicky Things that just get on your nerves

[Kor]

I got the sense that they were only able to detect it because of that special equipment they were carrying for Starfleet's gaseous anomaly cataloging project. So were normal sensors not, uh, sensitive enough to detect the exhaust emissions?

Kor

 

[Winterwind]

yeah but i doubt they used the exact same process and dont even get me started on Fallout 4

I know of Fallout, Fallout 2, Black Isles' cancelled Fallout 3 aka Van Buren, and New Vegas.

What are these others of which you speak? Sounds like some bad Jet withdrawal to me.

 

[Vger23]

The main deflector dish on starships somehow becoming the Star Trek Swiss Army Knife of Technobabble Solutions

The amazing number of times the warp core goes unstable, and the ejector systems are inconveniently offline.

 

[The Wormhole]

The amazing number of times the warp core goes unstable, and the ejector systems are inconveniently offline.

Hell, it's gotten to the point where the times a warp core can be ejected are the rarity.

 

[Silvercrest]

- Why didn’t the Klingons mass produce General Chang’s BOP? Unless there’s a treaty that prevents that and I’m just not aware of it.

There doesn't need to be a treaty we're aware of. Heck, there doesn't even need to be a treaty. That BoP got introduced in the middle of a Klingon peace overture. All the Federation had to do was say, "As a gesture of good faith, you will immediately scuttle any further development of that ship, or we walk!"

 

[Orphalesion]

Actually, it isn’t. It never made claims about there being no money.

But....did we ever see money transactions between citizens of the federation in TOS? I remember there was talk about credits (such as when Uhura bought the tribble, right?) But most of the time with TOS it seems that they are out in the wild frontier, while TNG and DS9 showed more of the Federation territory.
From that and Dr. Crusher telling that Bandi trader to charge a purchase to "her account" I always just assumed that the crews of Starfleet had perhaps an allowance they could use in interactions with species that aren't part of the Federation.

But as was said earlier in this thread, TOS and 90s Trek are pretty much two different universes (and that's okay, it's all fiction after all) with their own rules.

 

[BillJ]

But....did we ever see money transactions between citizens of the federation in TOS?

Did we need to? In "The Devil in the Dark", after making a deal with the Horta, Kirk comments about how the miners will be disgustingly rich. "The Apple" has Kirk and Spock discussing how much Starfleet has invested in the latter, after he saved Kirk's life. K-7 from "Tribbles..." seemed to be a Federation installation. The miners in "Mudd's Women" seemed like they were going to be rich men once they were done on Rigel.

I think TOS made it clear that it had an economy based on some kind of currency.

 

[Armus]

Khan wearing a red shirt uniform in Space Seed is a nitpick I can't repress. Did he get a Starfleet commission?

 

[BillJ]

Khan wearing a red shirt uniform in Space Seed is a nitpick I can't repress. Did he get a Starfleet commission?

Guess that is the only thing those snazzy Disco printers know how to make.

 

[XCV330]

Khan wearing a red shirt uniform in Space Seed is a nitpick I can't repress. Did he get a Starfleet commission?

The clothing replicators broke and they had to give him something to wear from stocks. No doubt he got his official Starfleet briefs as well, if that is what they were. we'd need an expert opinion on that.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Khan wearing a red shirt uniform in Space Seed is a nitpick I can't repress. Did he get a Starfleet commission?

They give Capt. Christopher (USAF) a gold shirt when he's beamed aboard.

Seems to be a courtesy the ship provides.
I assume Khan got red because he mentions he was an engineer and Christopher gets gold because he was a pilot.

 

[BillJ]

They give Capt. Christopher (USAF) a gold shirt when he's beamed aboard.

Seems to be a courtesy the ship provides.
I assume Khan got red because he mentions he was an engineer and Christopher gets gold because he was a pilot.

Probably what they had on hand that fit each actor.

 

[Tenacity]

I never liked that the phase-pistol in Enterprise used a phaser stream. Should have been plasma burst, like what was the case for the MACOs.

The MACO's and Starfleet usually don't associate with each other and get their weapons from completely different contractors.

 

[The Wormhole]

The MACO's and Starfleet usually don't associate with each other and get their weapons from completely different contractors.

Actually, for sidearms the MACOs used the EM-33, the pistol that the NX-01 crew used in Broken Bow until the climax when Reed decided it was time to use the phase pistols. And then in the fourth season, the Starfleet crew on the NX-01 stopped using their Starfleet rifles and began using the MACO ones.

 

[Forbin]

Khan wearing a red shirt uniform in Space Seed is a nitpick I can't repress. Did he get a Starfleet commission?

There's no rank on his sleeve, so, no - no commission.

 

[Ralphis]

Referring to everyone from the Mirror Universe as "Terrans". Terran comes from the name Terra. Terra means "Earth" in Latin. Terran should just be a term in reference to individuals from Earth as an alternative to "Earthling" or "Earther". If you're from Earth, you're a Terran, regardless of quantum reality.

 

[fireproof78]

But, they are apart of the "Terran Empire." I always thought it made sense...

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Why didn’t the Klingons mass produce General Chang’s BOP?

...Because the Enterprise figured out its big weakness and blowed it up real good? Cloaking has no tactical advantage if you know how to detect the cloak.

Plus, the Enterprise figured out how to detect it anyway, reducing its value.

"Hey, let's mass-produce that ship with the highly detectable exhaust that was destroyed in its first real battle."

Exactly.

I got the sense that they were only able to detect it because of that special equipment they were carrying for Starfleet's gaseous anomaly cataloging project. So were normal sensors not, uh, sensitive enough to detect the exhaust emissions?

I have a feeling that that equipment became standard issue pretty damn quickly after STVI.

Fair point. I was just always struck by how dumbfounded Kirk was with cash in ST4. How many weeks did spend in the Depression? He handled cash in City.

Rule of funny.

But....did we ever see money transactions between citizens of the federation in TOS?

Yep. Found in searches for "pay" and "how much" for TOS & the first six movies at Star Trek Script Search:

From "Who Mourns For Adonias?":

KIRK: Are you suggesting that he, Apollo, taps a flow of energy and channels it through his body?
CHEKOV: That would seem most likely, sir.
KIRK: Mister Chekov, I think you've earned your pay for the week. But where is the source of that power?

From "The Doomsday Machine":

KIRK: We're moving, the Enterprise isn't. Maybe that thing will see us and let the Enterprise go. If I only had some phasers.
SCOTT: Phasers? You've got 'em. I have one bank recharged.
KIRK: Scotty, you've just earned your pay for the week. Stand by. Fire phasers.

From "Mudd's Women":

CHILDRESS: Let's get right to business. You want lithium crystals and we've got them.
KIRK: Fine. I'm authorized to pay an equitable price.
CHILDRESS: We're not sure they're for sale, Captain. We might prefer a swap.
KIRK: What did you have in mind?

From "I, Mudd":

KIRK: All right, Harry, explain. How did you get here? We left you in custody after that affair on the Rigel mining planet.
MUDD: Yes, well, I organised a technical information service bringing modern industrial techniques to backward planets, making available certain valuable patents to struggling young civilizations throughout the galaxy.
KIRK: Did you pay royalties to the owners of those patents?
MUDD: Well, actually, Kirk, as a defender of the free enterprise system, I found myself in a rather ambiguous conflict as a matter of principle...
SPOCK: He did not pay royalties.

From "Requiem For Methuselah":

KIRK: Mister Flint, I have a sick crew up there. We can't possibly reach another planet in time. You can't refuse us the ryetalyn.
FLINT: You're trespassing, Captain.
KIRK: We're in need! We'll pay for it, work for it, trade for it.

From "The Enterprise Incident":

COMMANDER: Mister Spock, the doctor has now confirmed your testimony as to the mental state of your captain. He was and is unfit to continue in command of the Enterprise. That duty has fallen on you. Are you ready to exercise that function?
SPOCK: I am ready.
MCCOY: Spock, I don't believe it. There's no price you could pay that would make him sell out.

From "The Devil in the Dark":

VANDERBERG: We've already hit huge new pergium deposits. I'm afraid to tell you how much gold and platinum and rare earths we've uncovered.
KIRK: I'm delighted to hear that, Chief. Once Mother Horta tells her kids what to look for, you people are going to be embarrassingly rich.

From "The Apple":

KIRK: I see. Well next time, just yell. I can step out of the way as quickly as the next man.
SPOCK: I shall do so.
KIRK: Trying to get yourself killed. Do you know how much Starfleet has invested in you?
SPOCK: One hundred twenty two thousand, two hundred...
KIRK: Never mind. But thanks. Kaplan, take the post.

We have a whole haggling scene in "The Trouble With Tribbles":

UHURA: Are you selling them?
BARMAN: That's what we're trying to decide right now.
JONES: My friend, ten credits apiece is a very reasonable price. Now you can see for yourself how much the lovely little lady appreciates the finer things.
BARMAN: One credit apiece.
[...]
BARMAN: All right. I'll double my offer: Two credits.
JONES: Twice nothing is still nothing.
UHURA: If you're not going to take him, I'm going to take him. I think he's cute.
BARMAN: Four credits.
JONES: Is that an offer or a joke?
BARMAN: That's my offer.
JONES: That's a joke.
BARMAN: Five?
JONES: You're an honest man. I'll tell you what I'm going to do: I'm going to lessen my price to eight and a half credits.
BARMAN: You're talking yourself out of a deal, friend. Six credits. Not a credit more.
JONES: Seven and a half. Seven? All right, you robber, six credits.
BARMAN: Done. When can I have them?
JONES: Right away.
UHURA: All right, what are you selling them for?
BARMAN: Well, let me see, little lady. Six credits. Figure a reasonable mark-up for a reasonable profit, say ten percent mark-up... Ten credits.

From " A Piece of the Action":

KIRK: Now look, Krako, we're taking over the whole ball of wax. You co-operate with us and maybe we'll cut you in for a piece of the action.
SPOCK: A minuscule... A very small piece.
KRAKO: How much is that?
KIRK: That's, er... We'll figure it out later.

And from the end of the episode, Kirk proposes re-investing Starfleet's cut into a planetary treasury:

KIRK: Ah, yes. I understand that. You don't think it's logical to leave a criminal organisation in charge.
SPOCK: Highly irregular, to say the least, Captain. I'm also curious as to how you propose to explain to Starfleet Command that a starship will be sent each year to collect our cut.
KIRK: Yes, that's a very good question, Mister Spock. I propose our cut be put into the planetary treasury and used to guide the Iotians into a more ethical system. Despite themselves, they'll be forced to accept conventional responsibilities. Isn't that logical?

There's more haggling in Star Trek III:

MCCOY: You have me at a disadvantage, sir.
ALIEN: I name not important. You seek I. Message received. Available ship stands by.
MCCOY: How much and how soon?
ALIEN: How soon is now. How much is where?
MCCOY: Somewhere in the Mutara Sector.
ALIEN: Oh. Mutara restricted. Take permits many. Money, more.
MCCOY: There aren't going to be any damn permits! How can you get a permit to do a damn illegal thing? Look, price you name, money I got.
ALIEN: Place you name, money I name. Otherwise, bargain, no.
MCCOY: All right, dammit. It's Genesis. The name of the place we're going is Genesis.

And in a cut scene from the original Nicholas Meyer/Denny Martin Flynn script for Star Trek VI, Kirk tells Carol Marcus: "This sailor is in port for good. Take a good look at my retirement pay if you don't believe me. I can hardly afford to cross the street."

So yeah, I think it's a safe assumption that they had some sort of monetary or credit exchange on TOS. And Starfleet officers definitely draw some sort of salary and are allowed to make financial transactions on behalf of Starfleet or the Federation.

 

[NCC-73515]

Worf called Sector 001 the Terran system

 

[Phoenix219]

And in a cut scene from the original Nicholas Meyer/Denny Martin Flynn script for Star Trek IV, Kirk tells Carol Marcus: "This sailor is in port for good. Take a good look at my retirement pay if you don't believe me. I can hardly afford to cross the street."

Did you mean VI? I don't think Meyer was ever involved in TVH? Either way, what is this script you speak of, and what are the major differences?